Sweat Pea vs Mayweather

I wouldn't say comfortable by any stretch. Floyd is a great fighter, and would surely adapt if behind. Floyd is better off leading with punches like his left hook and straight right, and could no doubt tag Pea. I think this fight would be neck and neck personally. Watch his fight against Roger (who isn't half the fighter Floyd is) and see Pea getting tagged with shots. Pea is a great fighter but far from invincible. Floyd has better single punch speed, more unorthadox offense, more power in his punches. Both guys have great defense and a great chin. Pea is the better combination puncher for sure, but will he leave himself open for the crisp counter punching from Floyd?

Now think to ourselves when has anyone even come remotely close to outboxing Floyd??? I think this fight would bring out the greatness from both guys personally. I couldn't pick it either way.

 

The problem with highlight reels is they are designed to make a fighter look unbeatable. Post some clips against Jones, or Mayweather or McGirt ect of actual rounds and then lets compare to some Floyd fights against similar opponents and break it down.

I will have a look now.

 

I like Pernell at any weight. Slippery and had a very wonderful offense. By decision.

 

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To give Oscar a little credit, he fought a better Whitaker. And I'd say he was out of rehab for the Trinidad fight, and not the Oscar fight. He may well have been dabbling with coke around the time of the Oscar fight, but the inactivity between when he fought Oscar and the Trinidad fight was when he really when he stepped up his coke abuse to a new level. We don't really know, but thats my suspicion.

 

But McGirt had already been dominated by Taylor. And FLoyd is clearly above the level of McGirt IMO, and probably prime for prime equal to Taylor in terms of ability. Just a different fighter thats all, whom some here I believe are falling into the trap of under rating due to the fact he is still fighting.

 

Of course a highlight reel is meant to favorly show the fighter...the point of showing it is, too many people mistake the latter part of Whitaker's career for what he did throughout it. I posted it to "educate the masses" so to say.

If we are comparing fighters that have similar styles, then you need not go any further than Chavez/Castillo. Both fighters are mirrors of each other...cut from the same mold so to say, and you will find NOONE that will say Castillo did much of anything better than Julio. Floyd struggled with Castillo's style initially....Pernell boxed circles around JCC!

If we need to go further, we have Prime Oscar and Old Oscar. Sweet Pea was drugged abused, out of rehab, slow and past his prime. Floyd was in his prime. Oscar was outworked, outlanded and just barely squeeked out a win (most feel it was not a win)....while Floyd won a close, but clear decision. How would a PRIME PERNELL have done vs this version of Oscar?

Again, I think Floyd is one of the most talented fighters I have ever seen...but Pernell did just about EVERYTHING better. Not to mention that, the only styles that have bothered Floyd in the past have been a great body attack (see Castillo) and a great jab (see Oscar...when he used it)...and the best two assets of Pernell's offense was just that, a great body attack and a great jab.

Again, I just dont see this fight being close.

 

Floyd only barely has the edge in power? :think

 

I dont think anyone said that. Floyd has a distinct advantage in power...but that and a slight edge in speed (arguable) are the only edges he has.

 

I would not say Whitaker was slow against De La Hoya. I would say he looked just as quick as he did against Chavez 4 years earlier. Certainly not a vastly noticeable difference in speed, thats for sure.

And when Whitaker fought De La Hoya he wasn't out of rehab. The words your describing for the De La Hoya fight would be better served when commenting on his fight with Trinidad. During that fight he did look like a fighter who was hurt with substance abuse and obviously the inactivity hurt him badly as well.

Now, I'm not saying Whitaker was anywhere near his prime against De La Hoya, thats unrealistic and stupid. However, he was nowhere near shot. And shot to me: Handspeed dimished, reflexes and defensive attributes in tatters, and overall co-ordination evaporated severely. Whitaker showed all of those against Trinidad.

Mind now, Whitaker happens to be one of my favourite fighters of all time, and our opinions might differ on this depending on what you come back with, but the above was constructed fairly with my head, not my heart my any means.

 

True....I see your points. But he was slower (tho not slow...I see what you mean...bad choice of words I guess), he was drug abused, and he was nowhere near prime.

Again, I see what you mean, but again my point stands, how would a PRIME Sweet Pea have faired against an older Oscar?

 

Whitaker is a step above Floyd, this would be a very wide Whitaker UD, Floyd gets outclassed.