Sweet 16 march madness 64 man bracket heavyweight tournament...Your gonna love this!

our opinons not valued

 

# 1 Joe Louis vs # 16 Roland Lastarza LOUIS
# 8 Elmer Ray vs # 9 Pinklon Thomas THOMAS
# 5 Floyd Patterson vs # 12 Ron Lyle LYLE
# 4 Evander Holyfield vs # 13 Tony Tubbs HOLYFIELD
# 3 George Foreman vs # 14 Tommy Loughran FOREMAN
# 6 Riddick Bowe vs # 11 Harold Johnson BOWE
# 7 Max Baer vs # 10 Ernie Terrell BAER
# 2 Jack Johnson vs # 15 Rex Layne JOHNSON

# 1 Rocky Marciano vs # 16 Billy Miske MARCIANO
# 8 Cleveland Williams vs # 9 Lee Q Murray WILLIAMS
# 5 Wladimir Klitschko vs # 12 Tony Tucker TUCKER
# 4 Ezzard Charles vs # 13 Gerry Cooney COONEY
# 3 Jersey Joe Walcott vs # 14 Nino Valdez WALCOTT
# 6 Gene Tunney vs # 11 David Tua TUA
# 7 Ken Norton vs # 10 George Godfrey GODFREY
# 2 Jack Dempsey vs # 15 Earnie Shavers DEMPSEY


# 1 Sonny Liston vs # 16 Hasim Rahman LISTON
# 8 Jack Sharkey vs # 9 James Corbett CORBETT
# 5 Sam Langford vs # 12 Eddie Machen LANGFORD
# 4 Harry Wills vs # 13 Buster Douglas DOUGLAS
# 3 Joe Frazier vs # 14 Razor Ruddock FRAZIER
# 6 Archie Moore vs # 11 Sam Mcvea MOORE
# 7 Joe Jeanette vs # 10 Vitali Klitschko KLITSCHKO
# 2 Larry Holmes vs # 15 Greg Page HOLMES


# 1 Muhammad Ali vs # 16 Jimmy Bivins ALI
# 8 Ingemar Johannson vs #9 Jimmy Young YOUNG
# 5 Max Schmeling vs #12 Clarence Henry SCHMELLING
#4 James Jeffries vs # 13 Primo Carnera JEFFERIES
#3 Lennox Lewis vs # 14 Fred Fulton LEWIS
#6 Peter Jackson vs #11 Jerry Quarry JACKSON
#7 Tim Witherspoon vs #10 Zora Folley FOLLEY
#2 Mike Tyson vs # 15 Michael Moorer TYSON

 

First Round


# 1

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vs # 16 Roland Lastarza
# 8 Elmer Ray vs # 9

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# 5 Floyd Patterson vs # 12

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vs # 13 Tony Tubbs
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vs # 14 Tommy Loughran
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vs # 11 Harold Johnson
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vs # 10 Ernie Terrell
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vs # 15 Rex Layne

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vs # 16 Billy Miske
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vs # 9 Lee Q Murray
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vs # 12 Tony Tucker
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vs # 13 Gerry Cooney
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vs # 14 Nino Valdez
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vs # 11 David Tua
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vs # 10 George Godfrey
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vs # 15 Earnie Shavers


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vs # 16 Hasim Rahman
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vs # 12 Eddie Machen
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vs # 13 Buster Douglas
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vs # 14 Razor Ruddock
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vs # 11 Sam Mcvea
# 7 Joe Jeanette vs # 10

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vs # 15 Greg Page


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vs # 16 Jimmy Bivins
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vs #12 Clarence Henry
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vs # 13 Primo Carnera
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vs # 14 Fred Fulton
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vs #10 Zora Folley
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vs # 15 Michael Moorer

 

Well, with modern steroids and HGH, I don't know how this is fair, but I'll play the game--assuming no one gets to use supplements.

Louis ko's LaStarza
Ray dec Thomas
Lyle ko's Patterson--(Patterson consistently had trouble with big men)
Holyfield dec Tubbs
Foreman dec Loughran (in surprising tight fight)
Johnson dec Bowe (Bowe 25 lbs lighter without steroids)
Baer ko's Terrell (Baer way behind when he pulls it out with big right)
Layne dec Johnson (you want an upset--Layne's good jab difference)

Marciano ko's Miske
Murray ko's Williams
Wlad ko's Tucker
Charles dec Cooney (class beats size)
Walcott dec Valdes
Tunney dec Tua
Godfrey ko's Norton (Norton's record against sluggers poor)
Dempsey ko's Shavers

Liston ko's Rahman
Corbett dec Sharkey
Machen dec Langford (I think Eddie paints Sam with jabs-modern skill +)
Wills ko's Douglas
Frazier ko's Ruddick
Moore tko's McVea
Vitali dec Jeannette (even w/o steroids, I think Vitali too big)
Holmes dec Page

Ali dec Bivins
Ingo ko's Young (strategic fight ends suddenly with big right)
Schmeling dec Henry (in very close fight)
Jeff ko's Carnera (bad draw for Primo)
Lewis ko's Fulton (easiest pick of first round)
Jackson dec Quarry
Witherspoon ko's Folley (glass jaw & vulnerability to right sinks Zora)
Tyson ko's Moorer

 

Just when this Forum was getting nice and quiet ,you come back from your "Black Ops" training and cause trouble.
Why don't you" go upriver" and look for Colonel Kurtz or something?

 

First Round


# 1 Joe Louis vs # 16 Roland Lastarza
# 8 Elmer Ray vs # 9 Pinklon Thomas
# 5 Floyd Patterson vs # 12 Ron Lyle
# 4 Evander Holyfield vs # 13 Tony Tubbs
# 3 George Foreman vs # 14 Tommy Loughran
# 6 Riddick Bowe vs # 11 Harold Johnson
# 7 Max Baer vs # 10 Ernie Terrell
# 2 Jack Johnson vs # 15 Rex Layne

# 1 Rocky Marciano vs # 16 Billy Miske
# 8 Cleveland Williams vs # 9 Lee Q Murray
# 5 Wladimir Klitschko vs # 12 Tony Tucker
# 4 Ezzard Charles vs # 13 Gerry Cooney
# 3 Jersey Joe Walcott vs # 14 Nino Valdez
# 6 Gene Tunney vs # 11 David Tua
# 7 Ken Norton vs # 10 George Godfrey
# 2 Jack Dempsey vs # 15 Earnie Shavers


# 1 Sonny Liston vs # 16 Hasim Rahman
# 8 Jack Sharkey vs # 9 James Corbett
# 5 Sam Langford vs # 12 Eddie Machen
# 4 Harry Wills vs # 13 Buster Douglas
# 3 Joe Frazier vs # 14 Razor Ruddock
# 6 Archie Moore vs # 11 Sam Mcvea
# 7 Joe Jeanette vs # 10 Vitali Klitschko
# 2 Larry Holmes vs # 15 Greg Page


# 1 Muhammad Ali vs # 16 Jimmy Bivins
# 8 Ingemar Johannson vs #9 Jimmy Young
# 5 Max Schmeling vs #12 Clarence Henry
#4 James Jeffries vs # 13 Primo Carnera
#3 Lennox Lewis vs # 14 Fred Fulton
#6 Peter Jackson vs #11 Jerry Quarry
#7 Tim Witherspoon vs #10 Zora Folley
#2 Mike Tyson vs # 15 Michael Moorer

Very innovative tourney, dude. Man, there are some matches here that I would never have gone with on a 'best of' level, but on a head to head I had to acquiesce that Terrell would probably outbox Baer, Cooney's jab would likely rock the smaller Charles to his foundations, Machen would likely use his physical advantages over the dimunitive Langford and so on. Looking forward to the next round.

Scartissue

 

First Round


# 1 Joe Louis vs # 16 Roland Lastarza...louis
# 8 Elmer Ray vs # 9 Pinklon Thomas ..thomas
# 5 Floyd Patterson vs # 12 Ron Lyle ...lyle
# 4 Evander Holyfield vs # 13 Tony Tubbs..holy
# 3 George Foreman vs # 14 Tommy Loughran ..foreman
# 6 Riddick Bowe vs # 11 Harold Johnson ..bowe
# 7 Max Baer vs # 10 Ernie Terrell...terrell
# 2 Jack Johnson vs # 15 Rex Layne...johnson

# 1 Rocky Marciano vs # 16 Billy Miske ...marciano
# 8 Cleveland Williams vs # 9 Lee Q Murray..hard to say, williams
# 5 Wladimir Klitschko vs # 12 Tony Tucker...W. klitschko
# 4 Ezzard Charles vs # 13 Gerry Cooney...cooney
# 3 Jersey Joe Walcott vs # 14 Nino Valdez...walcot
# 6 Gene Tunney vs # 11 David Tua ..tunney
# 7 Ken Norton vs # 10 George Godfrey...norton
# 2 Jack Dempsey vs # 15 Earnie Shavers ..dempsey


# 1 Sonny Liston vs # 16 Hasim Rahman...liston
# 8 Jack Sharkey vs # 9 James Corbett ...corbett
# 5 Sam Langford vs # 12 Eddie Machen...langford
# 4 Harry Wills vs # 13 Buster Douglas ...wills
# 3 Joe Frazier vs # 14 Razor Ruddock ...frazier
# 6 Archie Moore vs # 11 Sam Mcvea...moore
# 7 Joe Jeanette vs # 10 Vitali Klitschko..V klitschko
# 2 Larry Holmes vs # 15 Greg Page..Holmes


# 1 Muhammad Ali vs # 16 Jimmy Bivins..ali
# 8 Ingemar Johannson vs #9 Jimmy Young..younf
# 5 Max Schmeling vs #12 Clarence Henry..schmeling
#4 James Jeffries vs # 13 Primo Carnera..jeffries
#3 Lennox Lewis vs # 14 Fred Fulton..lewis
#6 Peter Jackson vs #11 Jerry Quarry..jackson
#7 Tim Witherspoon vs #10 Zora Folley..witherspoon
#2 Mike Tyson vs # 15 Michael Moorer..tyson

 

Winners bolded


# 1 Joe Louis vs # 16 Roland Lastarza KO5
# 8 Elmer Ray vs # 9 Pinklon Thomas TKO8
# 5 Floyd Patterson vs # 12 Ron Lyle TKO11
# 4 Evander Holyfield vs # 13 Tony Tubbs UD
# 3 George Foreman vs # 14 Tommy Loughran KO2
# 6 Riddick Bowevs # 11 Harold Johnson KO4
# 7 Max Baer vs # 10 Ernie Terrell TKO3
# 2 Jack Johnson vs # 15 Rex Layne UD

# 1 Rocky Marciano vs # 16 Billy Miske TKO2
# 8 Cleveland Williams vs # 9 Lee Q Murray KO4
# 5 Wladimir Klitschko vs # 12 Tony Tucker MD
# 4 Ezzard Charles vs # 13 Gerry Cooney UD
# 3 Jersey Joe Walcott vs # 14 Nino Valdez UD
# 6 Gene Tunney vs # 11 David Tua UD
# 7 Ken Norton vs # 10 George Godfrey SD
# 2 Jack Dempsey vs # 15 Earnie Shavers KO1


# 1 Sonny Liston vs # 16 Hasim Rahman KO3
# 8 Jack Sharkey vs # 9 James Corbett UD
# 5 Sam Langford vs # 12 Eddie Machen KO7
# 4 Harry Wills vs # 13 Buster Douglas UD
# 3 Joe Frazier vs # 14 Razor Ruddock KO9
# 6 Archie Moore vs # 11 Sam Mcvea UD
# 7 Joe Jeanette vs # 10 Vitali Klitschko UD
# 2 Larry Holmes vs # 15 Greg Page MD


# 1 Muhammad Ali vs # 16 Jimmy Bivins UD
# 8 Ingemar Johannson vs #9 Jimmy Young UD
# 5 Max Schmeling vs #12 Clarence Henry KO10
#4 James Jeffries vs # 13 Primo Carnera KO4
#3 Lennox Lewis vs # 14 Fred Fulton KO1
#6 Peter Jackson vs #11 Jerry Quarry TKO10
#7 Tim Witherspoon vs #10 Zora Folley SD
#2 Mike Tyson vs # 15 Michael Moorer KO3

 

I'd like to still see Drew101, Meta5 and Stoney among many others.

 

I'm going to sim all of these fights in Title Bout Boxing and post the results as well

 

Winners are underlined and italicized, except for Rocky Marciano, who is ultra-italicized.


# 1 Joe Louis vs # 16 Roland Lastarza
# 8 Elmer Ray vs # 9 Pinklon Thomas
# 5 Floyd Patterson vs # 12 Ron Lyle
# 4 Evander Holyfield vs # 13 Tony Tubbs
# 3 George Foreman vs # 14 Tommy Loughran
# 6 Riddick Bowe vs # 11 Harold Johnson
# 7 Max Baer vs # 10 Ernie Terrell
# 2 Jack Johnson vs # 15 Rex Layne

# 1 Rocky Marciano vs # 16 Billy Miske
# 8 Cleveland Williams vs # 9 Lee Q Murray
# 5 Wladimir Klitschko vs # 12 Tony Tucker
# 4 Ezzard Charles vs # 13 Gerry Cooney :scaredas:
# 3 Jersey Joe Walcott vs # 14 Nino Valdez
# 6 Gene Tunney vs # 11 David Tua
# 7 Ken Norton vs # 10 George Godfrey
# 2 Jack Dempsey vs # 15 Earnie Shavers


# 1 Sonny Liston vs # 16 Hasim Rahman
# 8 Jack Sharkey vs # 9 James Corbett
# 5 Sam Langford vs # 12 Eddie Machen
# 4 Harry Wills vs # 13 Buster Douglas
# 3 Joe Frazier vs # 14 Razor Ruddock
# 6 Archie Moore vs # 11 Sam Mcvea
# 7 Joe Jeanette vs # 10 Vitali Klitschko
# 2 Larry Holmes vs # 15 Greg Page


# 1 Muhammad Ali vs # 16 Jimmy Bivins
# 8 Ingemar Johannson vs #9 Jimmy Young :barf
# 5 Max Schmeling vs #12 Clarence Henry
#4 James Jeffries vs # 13 Primo Carnera
#3 Lennox Lewis vs # 14 Fred Fulton
#6 Peter Jackson vs #11 Jerry Quarry
#7 Tim Witherspoon vs #10 Zora Folley
#2 Mike Tyson vs # 15 Michael Moorer

There's a lot of good fights above, and some that would be utter stinkers.

 

I do. I think Ruddock might possibly be the worst fighter Frazier could lose to. Ruddock was very limited, but he was tough, strong and durable, and he had that left uppercut... This could go all wrong for Joe. Really hate to say it, but there it is.

 

this is :good

# 1 Joe Louis vs # 16 Roland Lastarza
# 8 Elmer Ray vs # 9 Pinklon Thomas
# 5 Floyd Patterson vs # 12 Ron Lyle
# 4 Evander Holyfield vs # 13 Tony Tubbs
# 3 George Foreman vs # 14 Tommy Loughran
# 6 Riddick Bowe vs # 11 Harold Johnson
# 7 Max Baer vs # 10 Ernie Terrell
# 2 Jack Johnson vs # 15 Rex Layne

# 1 Rocky Marciano vs # 16 Billy Miske
# 8 Cleveland Williams vs # 9 Lee Q Murray
# 5 Wladimir Klitschko vs # 12 Tony Tucker
# 4 Ezzard Charles vs # 13 Gerry Cooney
# 3 Jersey Joe Walcott vs # 14 Nino Valdez
# 6 Gene Tunney vs # 11 David Tua
# 7 Ken Norton vs # 10 George Godfrey
# 2 Jack Dempsey vs # 15 Earnie Shavers


# 1 Sonny Liston vs # 16 Hasim Rahman
# 8 Jack Sharkey vs # 9 James Corbett
# 5 Sam Langford vs # 12 Eddie Machen
# 4 Harry Wills vs # 13 Buster Douglas
# 3 Joe Frazier vs # 14 Razor Ruddock
# 6 Archie Moore vs # 11 Sam Mcvea
# 7 Joe Jeanette vs # 10 Vitali Klitschko
# 2 Larry Holmes vs # 15 Greg Page


# 1 Muhammad Ali vs # 16 Jimmy Bivins
# 8 Ingemar Johannson vs #9 Jimmy Young
# 5 Max Schmeling vs #12 Clarence Henry
#4 James Jeffries vs # 13 Primo Carnera
#3 Lennox Lewis vs # 14 Fred Fulton
#6 Peter Jackson vs #11 Jerry Quarry
#7 Tim Witherspoon vs #10 Zora Folley
#2 Mike Tyson vs # 15 Michael Moorer