Swimming Vs Running?

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  1. Mohak

    Mohak RIP Smokin' Joe Full Member

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    I suck at both, but I'd say running is better. Swimming is great if you have knee or leg problems and saves them from the constant battering they take from running.
     
  2. repsaccer

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    Hey man, I had to laugh a little about Ylem's vid too, but if you ride a bike you do want to adjust it like that. I've used biking for cardio for several years day in day out, and you really want to almost fully stretch your leg and foot when they are on the peddle and the peddle is down. So basically you do not touch the floor with both feet if you're just standing around on the bike. He's right here.

    Edit: On topic, in general I'd say dedicated roadwork is better for boxing since swimming doesn't involve real explosive movement. I have swam a lot and I felt I lost a little bit of reflexes and speed while focusing on swimming a whole lot the last 2.5 years. However, I do think swimming is one of the best exercises for your heart and lungs in the long run, partially since it puts so little strain on your joints. I know too many runners with permanent injuries at 40-ish yrs old.
     
  3. billy boy balbo

    billy boy balbo New Member Full Member

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    i cant swim so have to run...like forrest
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  4. Johnboy2007

    Johnboy2007 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeh he has lots of times, you havnt! :hi:
     
  5. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the tip, but for now i think i will stick with swimming just to try it out.
     
  6. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What if your a good swimming and you just consistently do laps isnt that a good cardio work out as well? But i get your point.
     
  7. BladeJrs

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    I don't think brown bomber was disagreeing with Ylem's claim that the seat may be too low, I think he was reacting to gumbo2176's post vs. Ylem's on how to actually find the proper height for the seat.
     
  8. gumbo2176

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    yep, that's my take also. Ylem offered some crap advice and obviously knows nothing about bike adjustments. That's all well and good for little kids for safety reasons, but we're all adults in here------right???:yep

    I'll stick with my advice since I ride a big persons bike and not some tiny 20 inch stunt bike or older Stingray with a banana seat and ape hanger bars.
     
  9. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thats great and all but unless your on one of those giant 3 wheeled bikes from 1890, assuming your knees are slightly bent on the pedals.......your feet are just barely touching the ground when you take them off the pedals.....my post has the sme result as your post cept you need to go find some one to hold the bike for you.

    go sit on your bike, take you feet off the pedals.....are your feet just barely touching the ground? surprise surprise.....

    Heres my bike, cannondale 29er xl frame, surly karate ****** fork, sram x5 shifters, sram hydrolic breaks with a slightly larger front roter, velocity rims, schwalbe big apple ballon bike tires, 175 mm crank, and bull dog locking pedals. i had the bike custom built about 3 years ago and ive been riding regularly ever since. What kind of bike do you ride?
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    Boy am i glad people on here keep making completly idiotic assumptions that over and over again prove they have no ****ing clue what they're talking about.

    swimming is a full body work out, running is mainly legs and cardio. if you want something to replace running for boxing you should go with something that is mainly legs and cardio, like biking.

    if you just want a full body work out swiming is great.

    but my experience as far as swimming and boxing is that it put too much strain on my shoulders so i wasnt able to spend as much time at the gym on the days i swam and i had a longer recovery between gym sessions while waiting for my shoulders to recover......though ive allways had shoulder issues so that might just be me.
     
  10. gumbo2176

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    Nice ride. Mine is a Trek 2100ZR, 58 cm, 30 speed with Shimano Ultegra gearing, carbon fiber steering stem, seat post and rear fork. Bontager rims and tires to 120 psi. Shift levers incorporated in the brake levers for hands-on shifting. I use clip-ins for more push/pull when pedaling for more efficiency. Total road bike built for speed and comfort with the carbon fiber components taking away much of the bumps in the road.

    I don't know about idiotic assumptions. I based my first post on yours about needing to have your feet on the ground when the seat is properly adjusted. That is not the case in all scenarios and a generalization on your part. I simply said that for proper seat position, your legs should be slightly bent on the finished downstroke on the crank. I stand by that.
     
  11. Ylem

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    nice bike as well. the benifits of clip ins are amazing. at first when i was having the bike built i didnt know all about getting clip ins it didnt sound safe being connected to the bike but the guy who built the bike and the guy who i ride with talked me into it and boy am i glad i got them. and the bull dogs are nice because they have a large platform so i can still boots for winter rides instead of spending 200+ on winter clip in boots. actually they arnt bull dogs, they're crank bro mallets.

    i said feet just barely touching the ground, not feet on the ground, but more like balancing on your tippy toes. i agree its a generalization and you should have your knees just slightly bent at the bottom of the down pedal but in most cases knees slightly bent on pedals ='s feet just barely touching the ground.

    the assumption was refering to me having some 1950's bike or some little kids 20 in bike.
     
  12. gumbo2176

    gumbo2176 Active Member Full Member

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    So let's shake and I'll buy you a beer if ever we ride for a good sweat.
     
  13. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sounds great, i like to stop at the river horse brewing company on my way back when i ride along the delaware. they have a tasting thing for 10$'s and you get 6, 4 oz cups of what ever beer they have on tap for the day. after 40 miles with 7 more to go it is the best thing on earth.

    i have no problem with what you said as far as the conversation it expanded on what i said and made the matter alittle more clear.
     
  14. gumbo2176

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    There's a bar called the Rivershack Tavern on the route I take. It is a 45 mile run on top of the levee of the Mississippi River that has a paved bike path. The out and back run takes me 2.5 hrs. riding solo and less riding with a couple of others to cut the wind and draft. The tavern is about 2 1/2 miles from the end point and a good place to rehydrate. Sounds like we have a few things in common====beer, riding cycles, river paths, beer.
     
  15. Ylem

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    riding along the mississippi sounds awesome. river paths are great they tend to be flat so you can get some good distance while making good time.

    I do my 47 in about 3 hours- 3 hr 15 min but its packed gravel/dirt path and my bike isnt really built for speed. id like to get a road bike some time, my one friend i usually ride with on the weekends has a cyclo cross bike and a road bike he uses the cyclo cross on the dirt path but if we are doing hills at the local park he breaks out the road bike.....and just destroys me.