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He doesn't see the ridiculousness of that claim because heavyweights magically age differently than not only other athletes, but other humans in general. Just ask him.

 

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Worst jaw and stamina but superior physical attributes.

Skill is about the same.

Wlad is not a natural fighter like Vitali or Lewis ... he is completely programmed and very limited.

 

It's because size is one of their key attributes.
That doesn't go away.

It's generally the larger heavies that have longer careers.

Heavies that rely on speed, stamina etc aren successful into their late 30s.
Smaller guys like Tyson, Tua, etc that have power, but rely on speed to deliver it, or stamina (Pre obese Tua could ko you in the 12th as easily as in the first - and watch the Ike fight to see how many punches he could throw).

The bigger guys - with skills of course - can adapt to the natural slowing down that happens with age.

Look at how differently Lewis fought in his mid 30s compared to early on.
Vitali has clearly declined.
Wlad too. Fights at a much slower pace. He's very professional too which helps.

Holy fought for a long time, but I think he was excellent and had some 'assistance'.

Foreman relied on a club of a right hand, and picking his opponents well. He lost to Holy, Morrison, Briggs and got a gift against Axel Schultz. (Unlucky against Briggs). He didn't dominate the division, and had clearly said there was no way on earth he was going to fight Lewis. He wanted little Mike

Holmes, another former great came back, beat some contenders, but couldn't win a belt.

It's only in these crappy times a fighter can be nearly 40 - or more - and clearly be the best going around.

 

Honestly, if you could grab guys like Tony Tucker, Pinklon Thomas, Witherspoon (the wasted crack generation ) - when in their 20s - and drop them into today's HW scene, there would be a lot of retirements.

 

Here is HW top 10. Please tell me, which one of them is old at 33 and will retire at 33. Don't avoid the question. If you can't answer that question it means you're done. Now you are like a fly that got caught in a spider web and the more it tries to get out the more it gets trapped.

Price age 29 and had 15 fights, just starting out
Pulev age 31 and 17 fights, also just starting out
Wladimir almost 37 and in his absolute prime now
Vitaly still a champ and almost 42
Helenius age 28 and only 18 fights - a baby by pro boxing terms
Adamek 36 and in prime form
haye is 32 and definetly not old lol
Povetkin 33 and didn't even reach his prime
Glazkov is 28 and just starting out
Wach 32 and also nowhere near old
Arreola 31
Wilder is 27 and still a baby
Jenning 28 and also still a baby

 

Why do you keep trying to twist the parameters of this debate and not answering my points? You keep asking questions, I keep answering them, yet you keep avoiding mine.

Nobody ever said a fighter was done by 33. If you can find a post where I ever said this I'll leave this site for good. But you still have offered no proof heavyweights dont start declining in their early thirties like every other athlete ON AVERAGE. You still have not shown a link side with your moronic theory. Most nof all though (and again this is my favorite) you haven't addressed the fact that not only doesn't your only source NOT give any explanation as to why todays heavyweights MAY fight longer, he supports my theory and says its arguably the weakest era ever. So which is it? Is it a weak era or are fighters fighting at an advanced age because heavyweights age different? You can't have it both ways kid. Now stop ignoring my questions and man up!!!!! :yep

 

Adamek is still prime :rofl

 

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and ready to obliterate anyone that believes Vitali didn't school Lewis and send him into retirement.

 

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A shame that the two people who "beat" Vitali both ducked him for the rest of their careers and retired.

Add Byrd to the list.

 

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Byrd retired Vitali?

He actually had the choice of facing Vitali again or facing Wlad right after the fight and choose Wlad. So that's what Byrd thought of Wlad's superiority.

I'm not here to even compare Wlad or Vitali. Wlad is currently better because he's in his prime and Vitali isn't. Vitali was better at the time of Wlad-Byrd I because he was in his prime while it was the pre-Sanders version of Wlad (who was a lot worse than now). As a boxer it was much easier to beat Wlad at the time than it was against Vitali.