T.Silva vs Machida rescheduled for UFC 93?

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  1. LB3000

    LB3000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Brazilian MMA site Tatame are reporting that the fight between Lyoto Machida and Thiago Silva will take place on the UFC 93 card. UFC 93 could turn out to be a top quality card with the St Pierre vs Penn and Wand vs Rampage fights expected to take place at UFC 93.
     
  2. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No way they'll put all three of those on the same card.
     
  3. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    That will be an awesome card if it happens!
     
  4. Tyga

    Tyga Active Member Full Member

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    That's what I'm thinking.
     
  5. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its the end of the year card, they always do a megaevent, in the tradition of the Japanese.

    War Thiago mother****ing Silva bitchs, you can't "elude" and out "pure martial art" a chute boxe mind with ATT skills, Silva wil hopefully doing his throat slash at the end of the nignt.

    I don't hate Machia, he just frustrates me, he doesn't seem to have any interest in going for finishes, and Thiago is the polar opposite. Thiago is a Wandy-esqe murderer who has a completel legit ground game that is his bread butter, the strikes are just a bonus

    I actually like Machida, but this new bull**** of pointing out his obvious disintest in bein aggressive pisses me of.

    Even more off pissing is the ***gotry of faux no it alls insisting what Machida does is "true" martial arts: no, doing the most effective way to decimate an opponent is true value tudo,and Thiago represents that to the full. Just becuase Machia resemles what soccer moms have been dropping their kids off at babysittier....err.. martial arts classes, doesnt not make him more technical or somehow a true martial artitist. "Martial" referes to combat and "art" referes to a way of doing somethig: martial arts in its true sense is effective combat to win fights through combat. Being slick and elusive is neutral, if you cam do that and still be devestating, more power to you; but doing fancy traditonal crap is nothing if you can get in there and fight dirty and angry.


    Go Thiago, win won for the tough guys.
    People look down on aggresion these days; its disgusting. This is why i HATE t he term mixed martial arts, its concoures up 60 year old divorcees in oversize karate gis talking about chi, and thats why his fans love him.

    Thiago on the other hand represents a tough stree kid who learned jiu jitsu as a means of wanting to break limbs and make wifes cry.

    Machida is amazing andhas he potential to step away from the bruce lee Take Kids Dough bull**** and really start to be a dominating Wany Cyborg if he wants to do, but he hasn't; Silva has. Silva is a street kid looking to hurt you and hs go the jiujitsu gnp game which is his best and his nonstop aggression. This is Vale Tudo, Machida sees to have different goals.

    Vale Tudo is about dominating a figt witht he intendt to end it, and I am just so tire of being called ignorant for sayin it.

    I really hope Thiago solves the puzzle and represents for balls to the walls look for a brutal finsh.
     
  6. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you're drunk
     
  7. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, long week.

    I just get absolutely bezerk when somebody who is fancy and tentative is concidered the "true martial artist" while a tough guy like Silva who grew up on the streets, learned legit ground skills and added strikig later is concerned somehow inferier. Marial arts is not about looking pretty,and thats why I hate it being called martial artist. Vale Tudo is about proving the best fighter ina real world fight. I dont care how you go about doing it, but its about tough guys hurting people. No thats not a nice way of thinking about it, but this isn't a nice sport, the whole goal is to be the best fighter, no the best artist.

    Give me Cyborg, Wandy, Babalu, Lawler, Hughes, Penn, and to the truest extreme of my point: give me Dan ****in Henderson type fighter any day of the wek, this is fighting, not strip mall karate. Even a guy like Aoki goes in there to get the sub and finish thefight in the shortest time possible, proving who is the better fighter. Even more frustating is that Machia could be that guy tommorow, he adds 5% aggresion and he is leaving bodies in heaps

    I dont just want brawlers, I wont just want strength guys, I want Toquinho, Maia, I want JZ, Alvarez, and hell, Iwant Aoki, he fights too.
     
  8. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But mma is a commercial sport now.

    Anyway I enjoy watching Machida, low-octane sure, but its nice to see somehting like a 'new style' once in a while. More to the point, its not like mma is full of Machida types running around each other; the UFC can accomodate one.
     
  9. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea, Denigrateing Machia is not my goal, hes an incredibe fighter; would be better with 5% gain in interest in hurting guys. But he has as good of a chance of being anybody, 205 or 185 as anybody, he is great. But hes not "truer" to MMA than the guys who go out there an look to destroy.

    My point is that what he does is no "truer martal arts" than what Matt Huges, GSP, and to the greatest extent, Anderson Silva does; being tricky and evasive is at best neutral compared to going in for the kill and really asserting yourself.
     
  10. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Thiago for the win!!!!!!!!
     
  11. Marc

    Marc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dont these guys belong in the same gym?
     
  12. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thiago used to be Chute Boxe, but even then he was more closely tied with Maccaco than the Wand side of the team. They might have been together at CB for a brief time, but Anderson left soon after if he was ever there with Thiago. Now Anderson trains with Machida, Filho, the Nogs, a few others; and Thiago trains out of American Top Team.