Tactics Pac could use to prevent "running"

This. Even Duran would have had trouble catching SSM that night...when a vet's sole goal is survival, 9 times outta 10 he's gonna survive...

 

If that was true Mike Tyson's early career wouldn't exist. :bart

 

No one RAN against Mike like Shane did against Manny. They may have BOXED off the back foot and let Tyson be the aggressor but they didn't just full out RUN away like Shane did.

 

you ****in' idiot

cuttting off the ring will prevent an opponent from "running". instead of chasing your opponent, your minimizing the amount of space he has to "run"

& someone w/ footspeed like Pacquiao should have no trouble doing

its just a fact that he cant cut off the ring because he never learned it:deal

 

Cutting the ring is good if the fighter is moving laterally. But when a fighter is moving backwards all the time, you can not close the distance by cutting the ring. You literally have to run after that opponent.

 

Idiotic comment.

Mayweather wouldn't have done any better against someone intent on running backwards for 12 rounds, and trying not to engage (well, actually Floyd may have done marginally better because he has a longer reach).

The only guys who can look good against this type of opponent (a big rangy guy intent on running and surviving) is someone like the lightweight versions of Chavez and Duran, who were experts at cutting off the ring, exceptionally physically strong, and with great head movement, bodypunching and a high output.

This is the only way a big rangy runner can be stopped (and compared to Pac, Mosley is big and rangy), other than just chopping them down Hearns style, but Mosley's chin is too strong to risk that, as Floyd will testify.

Pacquiao can't just become a Chavez or a Duran if he wants to, and neither can Floyd. People can't just morph into another style completely at the drop of a hat. Boxing doesn't work that way, styles don't work that way.

Styles make fights. The style Mosley chose to adopt (disgraceful running and desperation to avoid exchanges) meant Pacquiao couldn't get to him without risking taking a massive clean counter on the way in, and we already saw in the Mayweather fight that Shane still carries the power to make that a very stupid tactic.

All Pacquiao could do was win every round easily. And he did that. Mission accomplished, 1st knockdown in 9 years into the bargain, and all blame lying squarely with Shane for his miserable, pathetic performance.

If anyone ever chooses to shamelessly run from Floyd, you will find the fight goes very similarly to Saturday. Floyd can't cover ground, cut people off, pin them down and work them over either, if they are intent on wild retreat. Fortunately for him, Floyd's defensive stance, low output and comparative lack of punching power makes it very very unlikely that anyone will ever try to run from him for 12 rounds.

 

STFU. They couldn't. Tyson could cut off a ring. Any quality offensive fighter can. Pac picks good name shot past primes and come forward brawlers. If you are out of that range? You present problems.

Mosley boxed off of the back foot and just never threw the right. His jab and lead hooks actually connected. He just didn't have the stamina to throw more.

 

YDKSAB! :deal

You don't follow him backwards you idiot. You keep his back to the ropes and slide keeping him between you and the center carefully moving forward. If you have any footwork there is no going "backwards" as the only place to go is into the ropes. So that just leaves left or right. Manny's power is on the left so Shane will be sliding right. Manny just needed to slide to the right and keep his power hand on a hair trigger because eventually Mosley would be trapped by the rope on the right and forced into the corner.

Problem is Manny is such a crappy 1 dimensional Boxer that he had no idea how to do this. Even sadder is you calling yourself a Boxing fan and YDKSAB!

 

well "use more of the in out motion" isn't going to cut it...perhaps something like, step to your right

 

b/s khan was on his bike and maidana could get him on the ropes and in the corner, because maidana can cut off the ring....too bad he did too little too late in that fight

 

lemme ask you, have you heard of "angles"


have you boxed...played football, soccer, baseball, hockey, basketball, tennis or lacrosse?


if you answered "yes" to any of those, then the idea should not be that hard for you to figure out

 

WTF, why do you get on Boxing sites and embarrass yourself? Cutting off of the ring is EXACTLY for an opponent who is "running"! We all know what running is in the context of Boxing you fool. You just don't seem to know anything about actually putting the Sweet Science into use!

You damn idiot it doesn't matter what the other guy "wants". You back him into a rope or corner if he doesn't "want" to fight then he is just going to stand there and get the snot beaten out of him.

If he gets some space you jog out on an angle to limit it and jump on him again. See Cotto/Margarito. You think there always somewhere to go because YDKSAB. :deal

Look bad? Yes. Survive for 12 rounds with horrible stamina, no offense, and movement as your Plan C? Hell no. A real deal Boxer would have been able to relentlessly track Mosley down and trap him. Hell for all the moving he did Mosley didn't even have a high guard! Pac had no idea about how to slide on angles, double up his jab, or apply effective pressure.

You couldn't do crap. Put you in with a few tough Mexican cats I know and they would be on you like flies on a turd.

So "logical" that it only makes sense to you and your "Couch Boxing" friends who don't know crap about Boxing.