Tactics Pac could use to prevent "running"

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  1. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When the other guy is much bigger and is running, there is only so much Pac could do.

    In the lower weights, he had no problems chasing guys like Sasakul and Barrera for the reason that he could walk thru their punches.
     
  2. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    are you saying floyd is not that skilled? :think
     
  3. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In what way is that performance by your real skilled fighter any better than what Pac did? :huh He didn't KO Mosley, did he?

    And your real skilled fighter could not solve the overrated unskilled caveman that was Mayorga.

    Loon :lol:
     
  4. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dont argue with broke_back_head_slick :good
     
  5. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cutting off the ring is fine and dandy but like I said, if your opponent has resorted into spoiling tactics the chances of you getting your offense off effectively is still slim to none. Thus the chances of getting an exciting fight is still slim to none. What did Shane do on those few instances that Pac got close and got his shots off? He did a variation of lil momentum killers like initiate a clinch, overreact to a headbutt, or initiate those annoying glovetaps...then after the break Pac has to go through the whole process again of cornering a constantly retreating Shane flickn out those long jabs of his (then rinse repeat) Now bearing in mind he was rackin up every round, how much motivation did he really have to keep on pressing the action? Pac did anyways coz that's his mentality...but dont think for a moment there was any sort of urgency.

    And I think that's what happened to Pac in those midrounds...he just got bored, then eventually frustrated that Shane just showed up for a paycheck. Seriously, by the third round Pac was fighting a mental midget. So basically the fight becomes a long tedious anticlimactic affair where Pac wins every round but made to look ugly in the process. The point being here is that while CUTTING THE RING OFF could put you in better position to get your shots off, it doesnt prevent a spooked opponent from "running"...and it doesnt prevent a fight from getting ugly.The major problem in that fight wasnt that Pac didnt cut off the ring effectively, it was that Shane packed it in early.
     
  6. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well put, but haters will never see that.
     
  7. Kittikasem

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  8. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    Against Mosley he needed to step to his right and throw the uppercut. Mosley would have been vulnerable to such a tactic.
     
  9. Kittikasem

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    Extremely difficult to land an uppercut on someone who is constantly moving back without leaving yourself wide open to get hit. Extremely difficult to land an uppercut from the outside at any time really. Uppercuts have never been an important part of Pacquiao's game anyway. Doubt this plan would ever have been under consideration.
     
  10. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Besides cutting off the ring Manny could have relaxed Mosley by simply committing to the jab up stairs and done stairs. Here is an example of a fighter running and a fighter cutting off the ring. Yes the opponent was a nobody but this just gives you an example.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6JkHWa81yE[/ame]
     
  11. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've always said that Pac's ability to cut off the ring, is one of his lesser qualities. Instead of moving side to side whilst hunting his prey, he just follows them in a straight line, and it's frustrating to watch. :fire

    Had he done this better last weekend, I believe he would have had a little more success in getting to Shane. He also shouldn't show too much respect to his opponents. Instead of obliging Shane's motion to touch gloves, he should have swarmed and punched him in the mouth. This is a real fight, not a sparring session.

    But at the same time, a lot of it comes down to the mentality of his opponent. When a guy is constantly running and spoiling, it makes it very difficult to do the above and look good. Shane was just a disgrace.

    So yeah, to prevent people from running, Pac just has to learn to cut off the ring in a way where he doesn't consume too much energy in doing so. He has to accept the fact that a lot of guys out there will run from him in order to survive, and that he doesn't allow himself to be frustrated when they do this. Just be smart.
     
  12. bambamz

    bambamz Active Member Full Member

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    stay in the corner

    lmao
     
  13. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Jabbing à Guy who is much bigger while you have à short reach at the weight and not à good jab to begin with doesnt seem smart, your basically setting him up for the counter right
     
  14. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Thats the thing, it will relax Mosley and make him commit and throw something that will get him caught opposed to just throwing power shots all night.
     
  15. Jetmax

    Jetmax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not saying he can neutralize and suddenly connect as he please with Shane if he learns to cut him off, nah that ain't happening. It will only open up better positions than just going straight at him. Cutting off is also much more efficient he doesn't have to cover more steps he just have to be quick, reflexes. I understand Shane made it difficult but the very few shots he would have gotten off with cutting the ring better might have made the difference.