Talent wise Tyson was athe greatest HW ever

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  1. punchy

    punchy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And this is why Tyson is one of the greatest a win over Holmes or Spinks is a great win because even if they are not at their peak they are still great fighters.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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  3. JohnThomas1

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    Holmes was 8 or 9 years past his peak. He could have fought for the title far sooner if only someone was willing. Late bloomer is bull**** really. He took his time learning his craft and had to wait a fair while for his shot.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Um, what has that got to do with 175?

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  5. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so larry holmes peak was 1976/1977?
     
  6. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Becuase most light heavies would have lost to that version of holmes.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    Still got bugger all to do with 175 ratings. Spinks put forth the perfect tactics and fought well. He fought way differently to the way he did at 175 up there, but Foster didn't or couldn't and certainly didn't adapt to the weight as well due to these reasons and possibly being a bit fragile up there. Charles, Tunney, Conn, all would have their supporters vs this version of Holmes. Do remember Holmes came back and beat Spinks in the rematch, no matter what the cards say.
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nearly; Holmes peaked IMO against Norton, that is two years before he won the championship.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    Actually i'd say 78 - 81'ish is a perfect version of Holmes. I was thinking Tyson dates sorry. Regardless Holmes had been declining many years.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    He won it over Norton didn't he.
     
  11. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Ive always thought 78-82. He was as good as ever against Cooney. 83 was when Holmes really started to slow down. More flat-footed, less mobile, and basically became easier to hit. I feel that year was when serious chinks started to develop in his armour.
     
  12. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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  13. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    Who and how... I believe the early rounds would decide who'd be the victory. If they could survive his early press then they may have a shot. I only believe probably Ali has the best chance, but I see Tyson as having the talent to take anyone out.
     
  14. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    Based on what? He's overrated fair enough, but why is he overrated?
     
  15. Popshots

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    I appreciate your $0.02 and your disagreement of my claim that Tyson has the talent to put Ali away early. The fact of the matter is he has the talent and precision to make it happen, its not just power alone. Tyson was not just a head hunter, but a vicious body puncher. As far as flooring Tyson a few times as you said, I keep hearing people talk about how great Ali's chin is and it is, but lets not forget that Tyson punch to the body isn't easily shaken off. I know that Tyson would have to end it early against Ali or his chances fade round by round.