Tank Gervonta Davis vs Tartan Tornado Josh Taylor looks highly possible

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    No you do but not everyone does. Fury claims he is the lineal champion which I am not even sure he is. To settle the issue the winner of the WBC title has to fight AJ pure and simple.
     
  2. African Cobra

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    @lufcrazy to be clear I am not saying the winner of Fury vs Wilder III does not bring value to the undisputed unification fight they do, all I am saying is AJ brings more value It’s because of AJ the Saudi’s are prepared to pay $155 Million for the unification fight. Some guys just have more charisma.
     
  3. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Hold up

    So JT with 4 belts is A side
    But AJ with 3 isnt?

    If its about titles and not money through the door, you cant flip flop like that
     
  4. Surrix

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    Of course and Floyd Jr unlike Tank does knows what will happen with Tank fanbase when he will lost 1 st fight. With sales too, LOL.

    If someone is stupid, he will not be able to make money regardless will he have 2 m GBP or 20 m GBP on account after all expenses and tax is paid off. Then yeah, you will need continue:p to get punched into face :Dfor next paycheck.
    Pro boxing is lesser than 0.000000001 % from opportunities to earn for a living and even then in pro boxing fighters are small spare parts, like racing horses. Boxers changes, trainers and managers, boxers promoters and agents, event's promoters and media managers last for long decades here.
    Sorry, pro boxer is more like racing horse in this business.

    Core of capitalism is not to work in the ring or as skilled, not alone unskilled worker.
    Core of capitalism is to earn money with capital you do have and to use connections, experience. This is what this is here.

    People in combat sports does think that they are great and very big while combat sport is niche in sport business nothing more.
    Even in US pro boxing su cks if compare with NBA and heavily sucks. :)
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    JT number 1 in the division.

    Fury number 1 in the division.

    No flip flop at all.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    And I'm not saying the PPV draw doesn't bring value.

    I'm just saying they can't always get the lion share based purely on being the PPV draw.

    Rankings, status and championships also play a part.
     
  7. African Cobra

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    You should realise by now a lot of people on here have their petty lowest common denominator agendas.
     
  8. African Cobra

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    The history of boxing shows this is not true. For instance you do know that despite Larry Holmes being the best heavyweight in the world and champion Gerry Cooney got more of the money for their world title. Also a phone line was installed in Cooney’s changing room for Reagan to call him had he won. All those served as extra motivation for Big Larree Holmes to kick his ass.
     
  9. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Fury is number 1 according to who? You?

    Or you going by Ring/boxrec?

    Because oddly at least one of these paid shills organisations have Tank ranked higher than Taylor

    Was Wilder genuinely number 1 when he had that belt?

    Because its a WBC belt thats Green?

    The WBC other than the WBA have been the most useless ORG over the last 5 years and that belts devalued somewhat

    I mean even now its a shambles
     
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  10. African Cobra

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    The winner vs AJ determines the number 1. Until then everyone can have their favourite.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    No, again this proves my point.

    Cooney and Holmes went 50/50 and Larry was pissed at it, he couldn't believe he was getting the same money despite being so unproven.

    Cooney was the draw, Holmes was the champ.

    Both have their merit in determining purse split.

    It isn't all about the PPV draw.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    I didn't think anyone seriously considered AJ the best HW in the world.

    But again, as I said to Olu the point remains. Ticket sellers can hold a strong negotiation position, but so can champions and higher ranked fighters.

    It isn't all 100% based on who the draw is.

    Look at Froch v Ward. Ward got 150% what Froch got,due to being the champion. Froch commanded his purse due to being the draw, but it wasn't the lion share.
     
  13. Wizbit1013

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    You thought, even with 3 recognised world titles nobody thinks AJ is the best HW in the world?

    I personally dont but....

    Im out lol
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    Yeah, who does consider him the best in the world?

    IBF, WBA and WBO. So paid for organisations. But how many independent ranking organisations actually consider him number 1?

    I do understand your position BTW, it's essentially one of reluctant scepticism.

    But imo it's more defeatist than realist.

    There's nothing wrong with a ticket seller being in a strong negotiation position. There's nothing wrong with a champion being in a string negotiation position.

    We do need a balance in the sport, and I don't think we're too far from it.

    Although as soon as the Paul Brothers start commanding a bigger purse against real boxers, I am out.
     
  15. African Cobra

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    They were both champions if my memory is correct going into the super 6 final.