Taylor easily beats Lopez, Davis, Haney, Garcia

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  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe? Lewis? Lmao. Wtf are you smoking.

    Maybe Froch but he’s still far behind him too. And the only reason for the comparison is that they’re both British at the top of their division. The difference? Froch smw division was one of the most stacked divisions at the time. Taylor’s LWW div is one of the weakest, if not the weakest.
     
  2. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jeezo, reading comprehension FTW! I said OTHERs are mentioning him alongside Calzaghe and Froch etc, and if you see other threads I agree with you he is a wee bit behind Froch. My point was that KHAN is never ever mentioned alongside those names.

    It seems to me that unlike most other 'Limey Brits', Khan seems to be more highly regarded by folks across the pond than he is in his own country. I'm not necessarily suggesting that's because he is on Canelo and Crawford's resume, but it might be a factor.
     
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  3. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    With respect mate you are not exactly coming at this from the most balanced point of view are you? Considering you have called amir Khan and all-time great & said he would be Floyds toughest test ever...
    & Amir was never dominant or the man at 140 either. Pure BS. You are also talking about a Khan that is long gone anyway, considering he hasn't fought at light welterweight in nearly a decade is it? In fact you dismissed the Crawford fight (criticising TC for 'not fighting a live body' & fighting Khan instead, which basically means you think Khan is shot..) already so don't pretend it was some stellar win all of a sudden out of jealousy over Taylor cementing his legacy.

    Khan is long since past his sell by date, I don't even think he's in any current top 10 rankings… he's not relevant these days.. Prograis would chin him. Taylor's passed every bit of the 'eye test'.. guys cleared out a division in 18 fights.. He's every bit as talented as the likes of Spence.
     
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  4. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hud on, Khan would be Mayweather's toughest test??? :risas3::risas3::risas3:
     
  5. dangerousity

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    When did I say Khan was an atg, at least seriously?

    And Khan would have been one of Floyds toughest test. That’s a fact. Floyd knew it and anyone who wasn’t that one dimensional in the way they viewed boxing knew that. Why do you think Floyd chose to fight Maidana? After Khan wins Floyds own Twitter poll on who he should fight next, and the fact that Khan already beat Maidana, and the fact that Khan was the much bigger name at the time. The fight would have sold stupid numbers in the UK.

    hint: it wasn’t because Floyd thought khan was ez money.

    I fail to see how Khans performance vs Crawford is any indication of his apparent shortness, true or not, Crawford would have done the same thing to Khan in his prime.

    Khan has his advantages, you can see that in his fight against Devon, my days has a fighter ever looked as fast and dominant? That’s because Devon is a “boxer” who relies on speed and skills, same with malignagi. Floyd is also a “boxer” who relies on speed and skills btw. Khan basically had a type and stylistically, Floyd feeds into that. Most likely Floyd still wins but it would have been interesting to see how he dealt with it.

    meanwhile, Crawford has srs power. As soon as he countered Khan, Khan had a lot of hesitancy on his punches and anyone who’s boxed before knows what that feels or looks like. You can be in there with someone you’re much more skilled than but their power and counterpunch can completely throw you off your game, have you perform at 50% of what you’re capable of.

    that’s basically what happened with khan-Crawford. Shot or not, wouldn’t have made the blinding bit of difference, Crawford would fk him up.

    My point is that Crawford is arguably p4p 1, Canelo is p4p 1 and 3 natural weight classes above. You would need to see Khan lose to someone well below those 2’s level to class him as shot, lose to a Prograis level fighter for example. Not disputing he’s shot, just going back to reference points.
     
  6. dangerousity

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    God you’re becoming more ******ed by the minute.

    you’re the one who brought their names to the convo, and whether you use “he said she said” as a proxy, you are the one implying it too.

    That’s like me saying...”well other atg’s think Pac is an atg” and then acting the fool as if I never implied Pac is an atg by bringing up that fact.

    You can always find a couple of idiots that make the comparison. You had idiots comparing Khan to Pac ffs, in their prime whilst they were active.

    Either stand behind the argument or don’t bring it up at all. Don’t bring it up and then cower behind the fact that “you didn’t actually say it”.

    jeez
     
  7. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    When Taylor does the very thing you were basically criticising Crawford for NOT doing (fighting a live body) you dismiss Taylor & then blow smoke up Crawford for doing the thing you didn't want him to do.. wtf

    :duh :lol:
     
  8. dangerousity

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    I’m not blowing smoke up Crawford’s ass. His resume is lacking, severely. But he passes the eye test on a major scale. Or is the whole world just under some sort of illusion on this and completely wrong to have him on p4p 1 discussion?

    I mean mind explaining that one? Why does the world rate Crawford so highly without those great wins, are we all imagining what we’re seeing?

    You’re trying to gaslight here. There is an obvious difference between how Taylor looks vs how Crawford looks, you’re acting like they’re the same and we shouldn’t be seeing anything in Crawford that we shouldn’t see in Taylor as well.

    Here’s a hint, Taylor looks basic as fk. Nothing special about him. I can’t see him beating any of the top 5 WW’s, that’s saying something considering 4 of those WWs moved up from 135/140.
     
  9. gollumsluvslave

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    No, you simply can't read for ****. It's not difficult.

    Khan is NEVER brought up as any kind of concensus Best of British, even at his peak I don't recall him being touted as such. But Taylor has been for some time by the more discerning UK boxing fans (and a few elsewhere I'm sure), and obviously following him getting Undisputed at 140 it's only going to increase. If you look at the other thread of 'Taylor vs these fighters at 140', i'll be very surprised to see very many picking Khan to beat him.

    Taylor could quit tomorrow and will always go down as better than Khan, both H2H and P4P. But Taylor's also a proper throwback and I'm pretty sure we will see more from him yet.

    Anyways, as before I said I'd agree to disagree with you, but suspect you are just trollin' now. Good luck trying to convince anyone else that Kahn and Brook are great wins for Crawford or that they would beat Taylor or Prograis (when they fought Bud - the prime Brook that fought Porter is a very different proposition of course).
     
  10. lobk

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    I’m still perplex by this eye test when one fighter hasn’t done anything at 140. Tank has been using his size to beat guys at 130.

    A lot will be answered when he fights Barrios.
     
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  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Why wouldn't he? He's a boiled down middleweight to their boiled down welterweights. He's four and a half inches taller than Davis. Taylor, Spence, and Crawford would probably all be the same weight on fight night.
     
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  12. dangerousity

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    your argument is weak. So because some obscure people compared taylor to Lewis, you think he’s in that class? Lol.

    newsflash, khan was considered up there as well as beat of british in his prime.

    https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/from-amir-khan-to-carl-frochthe-best-of-british/

    there was also much talk of comparison between him and Ricky Hatton who accomplished way more than Taylor.

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    https://britishboxingnews.co.uk/blogs/mythical-matchups-ricky-hatton-vs-amir-khan

    Anyways this argument is completely irrelevant to begin with. Who gives a fk who compares who to who.

    It just comes down to resume and Taylor’s is extremely poor for an undisputed champ. One of the worst I’ve ever seen.
     
  13. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Huzzah! Something we absolutely can agree on! :D
     
  14. hoopsman

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    It would have taken Floyd about 2-3 rounds to fully acclimate himself to Khan's length and speed.

    Thereafter, however, he would have absolutely punished Khan for every defensive lapse/loss of proper focus ( and there would have been many).

    Floyd's ring IQ and capacity to process information in the heat of battle--and then respond accordingly-- was utterly superb.
     
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  15. dangerousity

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    Completely possible and most probable. That said, there is still a mystery there and even Floyd knew that.

    Khan on a pure boxing match with nobody tearing his chin looks like an A+ fighter. Not many could do and look as good as he did vs Alexander, Judah, Malignagi, Collazo.

    What do they all have in common? Their boxers who can’t test his chin (except for Judah) and Floyd falls into that category.

    As I said, Floyd did a Twitter poll Khan vs Maidana, Khan won, and Floyd still picked Maidana. Khan beat Maidana. Khan was the bigger star and would have made way more money.

    Have you ever known Floyd to want to take the harder fight for less money? Tmt.
     
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