Taylor is done

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Mitchell_NY, Apr 20, 2012.


  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Well its up to him ,He would be fun to listen too ..And I don't know why people are getting on him for his post fight interview ..The man has had a tough road ..
     
  2. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats true the time he took away from boxing for his brain to heal has not helped him either. Lots of people don't know the reason why boxers sometimes go down hill fast is because of brain damage. Same thing happened to Riddick Bowe and many others.
     
  3. o_money

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  4. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A lot of newbies here are not aware of that.
     
  5. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Damn. When you put it like that, it is crazy.
     
  6. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Miranda would put taylor to sleep in 3 rounds in my opinion . Taylor didnt look impressive at all but then again you can also say it wasnt a terrible performance .
     
  7. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Are you willing to place your credentials here and put them against those at The Mayo Clinic and Lou Ruvo center for Brain Health? Seriously...You're making me be the dick here, but in the case of my own personal health I would rely more on the premier Nueralogists in the world so in this case Ill do the same, no disrespect.

    "As you are aware, Mr. Taylor has a history of a subdural hematoma following a boxing match in Germany in October 2009. As a result of this prior history, Mr. Taylor has undergone extensive additional testing including multiple MRI and MRA scans, neuropsychological testing, evaluation at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, and evaluation at the Lou Ruvo Center for Brain Health here in Las Vegas. He has been examined by both neurologists and neurosurgeons. All of these evaluations have demonstrated him to be medically fit to compete in boxing, not discounting the risk of head and brain injury that all unarmed combatants take.
     
  8. o_money

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    Rep, no, you're not being a dick. So don't worry about it. I wouldn't put my reputation on the line against any Nuerologist. Mayo clinic or not. Infact I wouldn't put my reputation on the line regarding anyone without having personally examined them myself. Seeing clips of a couple of interviews and noticing that his speech seems a little off and putting that in context of his previous history is not a professional opinion its just the type of verbal diarrhea that you'd spue onto a forum.

    Now all that being said there's some stuff in that statement that is reassuring. But like more well worded legally binding opinions (thats what a doctor's formal assessment is) its often as much about what is not said as it is about what is said. The reasuring bit about this is that he can pass a neurologic exam to whatever standards they deem to be a pass. Whatever that maybe you can pretty much bet that he doesn't have any obvious deficits otherwise there is no way they'd ever clear him. It doesn't however say that he doesn't have signs of mild cortical atrophy or early brain damage. It just says that he is fit to compete. You would assume that this means that he's not at significantly increased risk of serious medical harm if he is to continue boxing. That's frankly a fairly disputed assumption right now though to be honest. And its why some doctors feel once you've had a subdural you are at enough of an increased risk that it is not safe to continue boxing and other's feel that the increase in the risk not significant enough to justify with holding someone right to earn a living at their trade. This is a subjective opinion based on incomplete/low level evidence on either side.
    I can't tell you what I would recommend for your health and I can't say what I would recommend for Taylors. But what I can tell you is that in two years, when I have a practice of my own, if I had a patient who'd had a subdural bleed and who wanted to box, unless between now and then I read some new evidence that changes my mind, my opinion would probably be not to recommend a licience. That being said everyone's entitled to a second opinion. Anyways, thats just where I sit on the issue. My appologies for putting down what I do and stuff I normally don't do that, cause the crap that gets dropped on a forum is anything but professional. And everyone's entitle to their opinion.
     
  9. Hermit

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    Again, an estimated one hundred billion cells in the brain. Jack Loew asked Kelly when he knew he 'had' Taylor. Kelly's reply was "When I hit him and the muscles in his chest twitched." I'd be surprised to learn that any physician could trace out the exact pathology involved in that down to the cell level and neural path ways that were involved. What you don't know CAN hurt you. I personally feel that there are too many unknowns here for Taylor to be taking the risk. We have all seen what happens to boxers that stay too long.

    Maybe having an uncle who 'passed' a stress test and went home and had a heart attack has me a bit skeptical. If not that the uncle who died the day after being released from the hostpital after having heart surgery? I have a long respect for science in general but that also leads me to know that they do their best to understand things but the mysteries of the human body still are not fully answered. Medical science does all it can and I admire the effort put forth but it is what it is, a 'best effort' endeavor and not an exact science.
     
  10. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Taylor didn't look good Friday night but I'm sure he's going to keep on fighting. I just hope he is matched with guys who aren't big punchers.

    I'm a big fan of Taylor's so I was hopeful his comeback would work out well. I don't think thats going to be the case after the way he just looked.
     
  11. ViktorVaughn

    ViktorVaughn Well-Known Member Full Member

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    True!! Unbelievable but true!!
     
  12. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    He needs to fight Cory Spinks type fighters for obvious reasons.
     
  13. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Taylor's fights with Pavlik and Froch ruined him. He should go into commentary, he has a great name and obviously understands boxing.
     
  14. kingmiller8282

    kingmiller8282 Active Member Full Member

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    Hopkins Vs Taylor!!!!!!!!
    Make it Happen!!!!

    :yep:good
     
  15. dcb154

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    Being a med student is as overrated as med school itself....

    Whelp back to the books, last exam of yr 2 and Step 1 studying starts in a week, how the hell you got through this madness is a total freakin mystery. Good luck on your licensing exam.