Taylor needs to beat Pavlik impressively or else..

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  1. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    his reputation as a champion is on the line. hes had too many close fights during his reign as champion and I think another close win or draw drops him out of the p4p rankings or at least pushes him back a bit. A solid win over Pavlik is what he needs, anyone else agree?
     
  2. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A win is a win. I think everyone respects Pavlics skills.
     
  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Though I think in some ways this fight has the potential to showcase Taylor a lot more than in previous fights, I wouldnt hold it against him if he struggles.
    Pavlik is a monster middleweight, he is relentless and has decent fundamental skills.

    Taylor SHOULD have been beating welterweights Spinks and Ouma with a lot more ease. I dont expect it to be to easy for him against Kelly.
    He may be just to quick for Pavlik and beat him quite easily but he may have a real tough time with his pressure and size.

    He should win this though, as much as I want to see Pav win it.
     
  4. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    id like to see pavlik move up to super middle where the action is or even light heavyweight
     
  5. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    I cant disagree more.

    He had two airtight wins vs one of the best of all time at that weight (tho I had Hop winning the first and a draw in the second...). He then drew with (I had it a draw) one of the top p4p fighters alive. Then he shutout a former LMW champion (and a DAMN GOOD FIGHTER) as a tuneup. He then eaked out an ugly win vs a defensive southpaw, who is also a former undisputed champion and a damn good fighter himself (like him or not)....and a fighter in which EVERYONE looks bad against.

    Now he is taking on the best the weightclass has to offer. The most dangerous fighter at 160 BY FAR!

    Even if he loses his reputation as a champion will stay the same. Since the guy won the belts....he has taken on only the best (and fought a former undisputed champion and another former champion as tune ups basically...). He ducked noone. And whether you feel he beat Bernard or deserved the draw vs Winky or not....he was at least in this fights....vs HOF fighters.

    I am a Taylor fan...and Im sorry, I cannot see how anyone cant be...

    :good
     
  6. doom bull

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    This is huge fight. The most intriguing to me since Vitali vs. Lennox. Someone said it won't be PPV????
     
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  8. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    Good post. I was pretty hard on Jermain after the Spinks fight, and rightfully so, I think, but the fact that people ragged on his competition now just looks stupid. His tune-ups are against prime, former champs, and beating those guys means more than some big, uninspired guy just looking for a payday.

    I can't decide on this one yet. Very close.
     
  9. doom bull

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    Just like Klit vs. Lennox. God Bless.
     
  10. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    im talking about he hasnt had any good performances for someone who is a recognized undefeated undisputed champion in his prime who is a huge middleweight at 6'1 and is built like a light heavyweight who can't close the show against pint sized ouma and his boring fight against a small guy like spinks who has no power.
     
  11. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Oh, please. Taylor - at best - squeaked by Hopkins and drew with Wright. Many thought he lost all three fights. And what has he done since winning the title? Fight nothing but blown up fighters from lower weight divisions, none of whom he has beaten impressively.

    He's fighting Pavlik, because he and Dibella KNOW that his reputation as a "champion" IS on the line. Frankly, I doubt he'll beat Pavlik and think he'll most likely get knocked out. Taylor is, without a doubt, one of the more overrated fighters in recent memory - the product of HBO hype and their influence in getting him decisions in fights he should have lost on the cards. Pavlik is gonna blow him out and end the Taylor Fraud.
     
  12. trac209

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    Pavilic can't lose unless Taylor runs which he will when he tastes the power. This is no 12 punch per round Bhops. taylor going to get pummeled if he trades. Pavilic by ko 9
     
  13. H .

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    Funny, I didn't think Lennox and Vitali would be very intriguing, I basically thought it would be an easy win for Lewis. It turned out to be a great bout (even if it was only 6 rounds).
    ...and that's all I'll say about that.
    Taylor/Pavlik should be awesome. :smoke
     
  14. doom bull

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    I still remember that night sitting on the edge of the couch. Fights like these are fights for boxing fans. Not overhyped bull**** like DLH vs. Mayweather.

    R.I.P. Dimebag
     
  15. Lampley

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    Winky and Hopkins make it tough to look good against them. And Taylor actually did fight well against Winky, he just didn't create any separation (no shame in that against a PfP fighter).

    I also thought he'd look better against Ouma and Spinks, but it's not like those guys are bad fighters. People act like he's Sven Ottke and has been doing just enough for years, but he didn't win the title until just over two years ago, and since then he's had the rematch against Hopkins plus the fight against Winky.

    And now Pavlik, which will be like 26 months after winning the title. Like you, I'm hoping we get some clarity this time one way or the other.