Taylor/Pavlik/Froch (Video)

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TFFP, Apr 21, 2009.


  1. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Yep, I either get my pick right or the Brit wins. Win/ win.

    Deces prediction league clouds things a little, I'm doing well and I'd rather get the pick right than let my natural nationalistic fever get in the way!;)
     
  2. ninebar

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    They could be the difference, Froch is slow, Drops his hands, and leaves his chin exposed and does not have anywhere near the skills that Jermain Taylor has, but sometimes the hungrier fighter beats the more skilled fighter and upsets the apple cart. Carl Froch is very hungry and although he's taking on a huge gamble by fighting someone as skillful as Jermain Taylor he is also taking on someone who has has past issues with focus, determination and drive. The TV setback can only make Froch more determined in this fight and although I'm hearing things from Lou DiBella about Taylor maybe walking away if he loses i dont see the same passion from him that i see in Froch.
     
  3. GazOC

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    I saw that peice with DiBella, it did make it look as if Taylor didn't really want it anymore whereas Froch must realistically know the next 2 or 3 fights are his chance to secure his future. Whether that will overcome the gap in skills is another matter I suppose.
     
  4. ninebar

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    Froch is pretty much being written off by everybody stateside and quite a few people on this side of the atlantic, and without a UK TV deal for the fight he must feel mighty ****ing pissed off. They aren't ordinary circumstances and that's what makes me back Froch to overcome the gap in skill's and win this one. Even his own country isn't interested in picking up the fight thats surely got to be massive motivation to prove everybody wrong.
     
  5. Bodysnatcher

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  6. robpalmer135

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    you guys are focussing on everything good Pavlik does and everything bad Froch does. the point of this thread is the Best of Froch agaisnt the best of Pavlik.

    The fact is there that when things start getting tough Taylor doesn't rise to the challenge. He could of won that fight agaisnt Pavlik without to much trouble, sure he has the skills but is he going to use it?

    Also i think Froch's hand speed is allot faster than you think, he is not Floyd Mayweather but if he is that slow he would not be world champion.

    to win Taylor need to get combinations of on Froch, but to do that he is going to have to take Froch's shot as Carl can walk right through Taylor. Im not saying everytime froch hits him he will go down, but taylor will not like Forch's shots, will pull out and just start using his jab and try to throw the right hand.

    That is exactly what froch wants, as he can counter that right hand all day long with big eye catching shots, and in round 7-9 Froch can start pushing Taylor backwards. Then in rounds 10-12 froch can outwork and outbox a Taylor that does not want to trade or throw the right hand, just wants to Jab.

    Taylor to be 4 - 2 up going into the 6th, Froch to take 5 of the last 6 rounds. But i got a feeling a dodgy decision could happen.
     
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  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I'm focusing on everything Pavlik does, and nearly everything he does is better than Froch. And from where I'm sitting, Taylor won 5 rounds in the rematch. What I'm saying is, if Taylor fights like this Froch has little chance.

    And Bodysnatcher, I do believe Pavlik's handspeed is noticeably faster. By quite a long way actually. Especially late in the fight, Froch really looked like he was stuck in treacle when he got tired.
     
  9. robpalmer135

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    I am not saying he is fast, but I am not saying he is slow. I think the way he throws punches is kind of unorthadox so it looks slower than it actually is. Maybe they are slow but he throws unpredicatable shots and thats why he is quite succesful, he is also very accurate.
     
  10. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    If he's so accurate with his shots why didn't he tag Pascal all that cleanly? He certainly didn't hurt Pascal as much as expected, considering Pascal's previous issues when taking shots.
     
  11. robpalmer135

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    Pavlik fights in straight line, cannot fight on the back foot, can only go forward forward forward. The same cannot be said about Froch in my opinion. I think Froch is a better ring general than Pavlik as well.

    Froch like most british/european fighters throws better body shots.

    Pavlik certainly is the bigger puncher and has a better defence, but Froch has better reactions, is a better coutner puncher and can take a shot better than Pavlik, i cannot see Taylor hurting Froch the way Pavlik was hurt in his 2 fights with Taylor.

    Personally I think that Taylor is a much tougher fight for Froch than Pavlik would be, but thats just boxing.
     
  12. robpalmer135

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    you can put that down to in expirience. I think we all underrate Pascal. The guy is fighting for the WBC light heavyweight title this summer, and he will probably win.
     
  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I wouldn't be so sure about that. I don't think Pascal was that great, he was good preperation for Taylor but in reality a vastly inferior version. Unless he can hurt Diaconu it will probably be a tough night for him.

    I think people are correct in assuming Taylor's mindset is the key to Froch's chances. On the balance of strengths/weakness Taylor's strengths are a lot better than Froch's, and Taylor's weaknesses are all taken to another level by Froch. The intangibles are absolutely key to this fight.
     
  14. robpalmer135

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    I have always fancied Froch ever since this fight was mentioned.