Taylor was always massively overrated

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Loma is all wrong for Meat and Potaoes Mikey. Loma has seen countless good technicians in his life, Mikey has never seen anything like Loma.

    Not sure about that but it would've definitely been a win.

    If Teofimo didn't duck the rematch against Loma he would've got dealt with too
     
    Serge, May 27, 2025 at 1:09 PM
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'm talking about their undisputed runs at 140

    Spence and Crawford are the same size and Spence, as I have proven unequivocally in this very thread, is a PBC hype job
     
    Serge, May 27, 2025 at 1:11 PM
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  3. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no they arent
     
    Joeywill, May 27, 2025 at 1:22 PM
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You think Crawford is bigger? I might be in agreement with you with that
     
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  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spence started out his career at 54

    Then went down and fought at 47

    Hes huge for the weight

    Hes very Josh Taylorish in that way
     
    Joeywill, May 27, 2025 at 1:28 PM
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

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    I always said it since he smoked Richard Commey. Lopez is an all time great talent
     
    MarkusFlorez99, May 27, 2025 at 1:31 PM
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  7. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He really is

    He just has a few screws loose
     
    Joeywill, May 27, 2025 at 1:33 PM
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Crawford turned pro at 140 and technically he only made 135 six times IIRC

    He was weighing a very lean 177 over seven years ago

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    He was rehydrating as much as 18lbs at 135, 17lbs at 140, easily the same at 147, and he weighed 0.2 ounces under 170 for his 154 debut so basically rehydrating 16lbs for his debut in his 4th weight class

    The highest recorded fight night weight of Spence albeit there are only 1 or 2 is 162lbs and that was a catchweight bout of 150. Crawford was coming in as high as 157 at 140 and he was very noticeably bigger at 147. They both looked drained on the scales for their fight and would've weighed roughly the same as each other

    Taylor weighed 149 vs Alfonso Olvera despite coming in at 142 and the SKY commentary team said that Rougarou weighed considerably more than him when they did a fight night weigh in. I think Taylor got bigger after leaving Shane McGuigan and working with a new S&C team
     
    Serge, May 27, 2025 at 1:45 PM
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    Serge out here serving all comers! Lol
     
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  10. Mark Anthony

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    I do agree that Spence was a hype job but he was still a big welter and Taylor was bigger than every fighter he beat at 140 was my point.
     
    Mark Anthony, May 27, 2025 at 3:26 PM
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    :(
     
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    But he`s 5`8, Taylor had an even bigger advantage over light welters being 5`10.
     
    Mark Anthony, May 27, 2025 at 3:27 PM
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  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    The reality is that Taylor is underrated considering the gauntlet he has run since turning pro.
    It's a very casual way to look at it calling him overrated now that he is well and truly on the slide.
    Unifying a whole division in 18 fights is very impressive.
     
    MidniteProwler, May 27, 2025 at 4:09 PM
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  14. Salty Dog

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    Agreed. He was never that good.
     
    Salty Dog, May 27, 2025 at 10:06 PM
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  15. tarrant45

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    Was never a p4p talent, and this is a great example of why having a bunch of belts does not prove you are exceptional. He is not the first either. He was solid and had a decent run but never exceptional, even in his prime.

    As or Spence, he was always nothing more than a 7/10 fighter to me. Hugely overrated for obvious reasons.
     
    tarrant45, May 28, 2025 at 12:45 AM
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