TBE? Was it ever possible?

Haha, no. Roy Jones maybe, Floyd will always be that boring guy who masterfully created a public image to get rich while carefully choosing his opponents and getting lucky with decisions. Floyd has never been a dominant guy, he only looks good on paper.

 

Apart from all time greats in Augustus, Castillo, Maidana, Cotto. Apart from them nobody was on money may/TBE level

 

:deal

 

In terms of Greatness, HELL NO. His era is not strong enough, it's not like it was in the 70's-90's for example. He avoided stylistic threats too.

There's no way a modern boxer will be as great as a Harry Greb (i.e fought very often, a very competitive era, so many HOF/ATG victories, was half blind in the latter part of his career, past prime but still repeated wins, beat high end ATG Tunney most times but not given the decisions).


The BEST ever? No.
In the same weight classes:
Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Napoles > Mayweather I say this with strong confidence.
He's just a slight whisker under Whitaker level basically, which is extraordinary.
You're seeing one of the very best of all time in Mayweather.

 

He's not the TBE, but he had a chance to be.

If he would have fought more and beaten some of the other styles.

He would have also had to beat Golovkin and unify the MW division.

 

Listen to this legend :deal

Pac is definitely greater than Mayweather.
Pac goes from malnourished little kid in poverty conditions, succeeding in that environment against all odds, beating Sasakul.
He then moves to America, gets the diet, the training (which is why he rose in weight classes and had power moving up), beasts on ATG's like Barrera, then goes all the way up to dismantle Cotto and Margarito, the latter being 165lbs on fight night, when Pac only weighed in at 144lbs.
Pac dominated these guys to shreds.

Mayweather is one of the best of all time, but greatest, nope. Mayweather is not as great as Oscar De La Hoya.

 

This is exactly why he isn't as 'great' as people make him out to be, not a particularly great resume that stands out where names at or near prime are concerned.

Pacquiao was a semi shot old sloth 4 years past prime and many ring-years older than Floyd.

 

Pacquaio's legacy >>>>>>>> Mayweathers. Pac was voted Fighter of the Year & Fighter of the Era & rightly so he deserved both Not to mention Freddie's Trainer of the Year too AGAIN!!!!
Can you say with all honesty that the con job that was hailed as The Fight of the Century really decided who the better man was??? Manny was injured fighting in pain Floyd ran from him for 12 rounds Even Floyd Sr asked Floyd "Why are you fighting scared" ?????????????Now he's fighting Berto????????????????
Get Real Alexatsch

 

If these were the fighters he fought then they would all be considered cherrypicks in 2015

 

Only one of those fights are cherry picks and that's the current one vs Berto.

Ortiz while not a great win was #3 WW and WBC WW Champ(title fight)
Baldomir was the Undisputed Champ and his win over Judah was greater than anything any other WW was doing at the time.(the dude legitimately won 3/4 WW titles)
Guerrero was in the same position GGG is currently in with Cotto a Mandatory and Intriem Champ.
Maidana was a top 4/5 WW and the WBA WW Champ.

Unifying 2 Belts, beating an Undisputed Champ, and a mandatory to your title ain't Cherry picking that's something more fighters should do!

 

Was there for the taking but he missed out on the opportunity. Had he taken on all comers and properly cleaned out the divisions he fought in then he'd have a strong case in my opinion. Instead there were long spells of inactivity and retirement to the point he was removed from any ranking anywhere altogether.

 

What if Pacquiao knocked out Barrera (actually did), prime Marquez, prime Floyd and prime Morales?

That to go along with his knockouts over Ledwaba and Cotto.

He would probably have been ranked top 3 all time.

So it is possible for a modern fighter to do it. You just have to beat good enough fighters.

 

Only slightly???

Floyd's best victory is either Corrales or Castillo II.

Pacquiao's victories that surpass that best win: Barrera I, Marquez II, Cotto.

Pacquiao's victories that arguably surpass Floyd's best win: Ledwaba, Bradley II, Sasakul

It's not just slightly better. Pacquiao has consistently fought better competition. And I didn't even include his tough loss to a very good Erik Morales and a draw with a peak Marquez.

 

what part? beating an undisputed Champ, unifying 2 titles, or beating a mandatory?

Me personally I don't think Mayweather is "TBE" but if he legitimately won a MW Title(Cotto/Canelo or GGG) while remaining unbeaten I wouldn't argue if a person had him in there top 10.

It's all opinion anyway but your telling me a fighter who (and if he won a MW title)
5-Division Champ,(6 Division)
who beat the #1 guy for the title 2x in 4/5 weights,(5/6)
has beaten the most Champ all time(And if you do research only 2 were FORMER CHAMPS everyone else was either a Current Champ or Won a Title afterwards.
while being unbeaten through 20 years can't be argued as a top 10 ATG

That's top 10 ATG stuff, you can put any spin on it you want but you can easily argue Mayweather top 10. Again I don't have him as TBE but he could still be put in that class with 1 fight.

 

I don't think Manny has the better resume but I cosign this statement people act like it's taboo to say a current guy could be in the top 10 All Time. Realistically If Manny would of won in May he'd arguably have been able to be talked about as top 10.