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  1. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Here's a question.

    Does Chisora have the best chin of any of Haye's Heavyweight's opponents?

    If yes, what makes people think Haye will stop him, when an old, unmotivated Ruiz went 9?
     
  2. Bill C84

    Bill C84 Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think Valuev's was probably the best but that's more to do with it being the size of a horses chin.
     
  3. pijo

    pijo Feed the Pope Full Member

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    Does he have a better chin than Valuev? Personally though, I don't think he will knock him out but stop him on his feet with him landing clean punches.
     
  4. MrAthena

    MrAthena Member Full Member

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    Yes he does have the best chin of Hayes opponents. Don't think Haye will stop him, but if he catches him and make Chisora respect his power that should be enough to slow Del Boy down.
     
  5. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    Answer: Yes

    It will be accumulative. Just like Ruiz. (This fight is a classic example where styles make fights)

    I've been told Haye is practicing counter punching but putting a lot of effort into devastating combinations.

    Haye has decent footwork, Chisora will be bounding forward doing that shitty Joe Frazier impersonation. Haye will keep pinging him with jab and over hand right. I fancy the uppercut is a good punch for Haye to.

    Question for you Vanos. If Wladamir couldn't KO Haye, what makes you think Chisora can?
     
  6. Brett Pitman

    Brett Pitman Bench warming Legend Full Member

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    Chisora has a decent chin but I still think Haye will stop him. Styles make fights.
     
  7. Godfather

    Godfather I put the G in God Full Member

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    One of the many problems with that post is that Chisora has a better chin than Ruiz AND moves his head/upper body.

    Also you said Haye will keep hitting him with the jab. His jab is not good, and his stamina is even worse. He's not going to 'keep' pinging him with anything unless he's going for a KO in the first half of the fight. Haye is a *****, but he's not stupid, so he won't be throwing loads of punches.

    Haye's footwork is not decent by the way. Wlad's footwork was far superior which made Haye's offence impotent. Haye's footwork only looks good when he's fighting Valuev.

    I don't think Chisora will KO Haye, but I think he stands a better chance of getting a KO than Haye does.
     
  8. Michael300

    Michael300 Fighting back..... Full Member

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  9. Michael300

    Michael300 Fighting back..... Full Member

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  10. ollyc

    ollyc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes because Ruiz was getting decked by fighters of Carl ****ing Baker's calibre, wasn't he?

    Listen to what the man has to say for himself.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qPCuPgvF7Y[/ame]
     
  11. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Haye's a totally different puncher compared to others Chisora's faced. He's a lot quicker and from different angles so Chisora's chin will be tested but with a variety of different shots. Punches you don't see coming are worse to take and Chisora will feel Haye's power throughout the fight.

    Chisora has a good solid chin and it will be tested even more then against Vitali IMO. Haye throws 2-3 punches but he throws with bad intentions where as Vitali digs and it accumulates over course of fight. You rarely see him throw a bomb it's all very systematic. Maintains his balance and hits but likes to make sure he can get out straight away.

    Chisora's been hurt a few times in past, even against Helenius in round 1 i remember him backing up and then initiating a hold. He was smart and recovered well and stopped Helenius getting off when in trouble.

    With regards to Ruiz he's a survival instincts were there. Haye swung bombs recklessly and allowed him to settle into fight. That fight could of easily of been over in round 1 if Haye picked his shots. David is a very messy finisher although he finishes the job a majority of time he tends to square up after first punch and then lets a few more off. He's naturally powerful and doesn't think to much about his work he just looks to land as much and as hard as he can.
     
  12. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl Bravo.
     
  13. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    Wladamir is excellent at controlling distance, whether that's footwork related or more to do with his size & safety come first approach I don't know. (I'm not a technical wizard)

    I know Haye is putting emphasis on the jab so I fully expect him to use that. Chisora will bob&move to walk Haye down. We know he isn't liable to stand a trade so he'll need to use his jab & footwork to get out of range.

    Haye is a much better boxer than Chisora. His punches a fast, sharp & powerful enough to back Chisora up. I don't think Haye blasts him out early, but I fancy he will stop him late.
     
  14. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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