TEAM DEONTAY WILDER: DELUDED EDDIE HEARN “HUNG AJ OUT” FOR LIABILITY

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  1. UFC2020

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    TEAM DEONTAY WILDER: DELUDED EDDIE HEARN “HUNG AJ OUT” FOR LIABILITY

    WORLD BOXING NEWS

    MAY 30TH, 2021

    Eddie Hearn shouldn’t have tried to make Anthony Joshua against Tyson Fury when legal matters were ongoing, says Deontay Wilder co-manager Shelly Finkel.

    The Matchroom boss took flak from Finkel over the past few days for stringing the UK fans along. Undoubtedly when the fight was never on from the start.

    Bob Arum, Fury’s US promoter, also wanted to make the fight a reality. But as Finkel explained, the judge turned down a request to end mediation over a contracted trilogy versus Wilder earlier on.

    This ruling was a solid indication that a judge presiding the matter would see it in favor of Wilder.

    Nonetheless, Hearn plowed on promising the Fury vs. Joshua undisputed unification and even named a date and venue.

    Days later, it all came crashing down.

    Finkel says all the evidence was in front of Hearn, and Arum for that matter, to tell them a Fury vs. AJ deal was not going to happen.

    The only scenario forming if Fury vs. Joshua went ahead was a legal challenge against Hearn’s fighter from Wilder.

    “I don’t think you have an arbitration out there and you go say, ‘Well, we’ve made a deal already,” said Finkel on the fact Hearn consistently said Fury vs. Joshua was a done deal.

    “That to me is just not the logical way to do things, and then after that, you don’t hear Eddie [Hearn, Joshua’s promoter] say anything.

    “The reason, obviously someone told him, ‘You better not say things, because if Fury fights you, your guy instead, you have massive, massive liability.’ You have induced a breach of a contract adjudicated in court. You induced him to do it by hanging Joshua out there for it.

    “It became evident to Eddie because he’s smart, I better shut up, and I had nothing to do with it.

    “But they knew there was an arbitration case. Everyone knew it, and there was at one point, Arum went for a summary [quicker] judgment. They denied it. Once denied, you’ve got to know something the judge is thinking because he would have given you an indication the case was over.

    “You have to have your self logic. You’ve got to say, ‘Look, even if it’s a one percent chance I’m going to lose, it’s a one percent chance [that Fury won’t win].’

    “I can’t say, ‘It’s not going to happen.’ They deluded themselves. Al and I just continued to press forward. You didn’t hear us in the papers. You didn’t hear us saying anything.

    “[We] Avoided all press. I don’t get that kind of sureness that nothing could happen,” added Deontay Wilder’s right-hand man.

    Fury is forced to battle Wilder for the third time this summer after the American stated he would not accept any amount of step-aside money.

    Arum booked Las Vegas for the contest, which was already agreed upon when the pair fought for the second time in February 2020.

    At the time, all sides agreed that in the final installment of the saga, the winner [Fury] would get 60%, and the loser [Wilder] got 40% of the pot.

    Link: https://www.*****.net/2021/05/30/deontay-wilder-hearn-aj-liability/

    Comment: Dishonest Eddie Hearns. I will not even call him Incompetent, he is straight up Dishonest who thought he could get Bob Arum, Frank Warren to get Fury to break his contract with Wilder and get away with it and is now lying to the media to save face that he had nothing to do with this fiasco.
     
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  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearn doesn't control Fury. It's Arum and Furys team that tried to break contract. How is everything that is the fault of Furys team here being blamed on Hearn? The only thing Hearn is guilty of here is being gullible.
     
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  3. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm thinking the AJ fight was insurance in case the mediation didn't result in the trilogy being ordered. Making Hearn sweat was a fringe benefit.
     
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  4. Blandman

    Blandman Active Member Full Member

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    It was an opportunity to make it look like AJ actually wanted to fight Fury.
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This makes 0 sense
     
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  6. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This sums up your post

    This content is protected
     
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  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Hearn tried to make the fight everyone wants to see

    Hearn tried to make everyone involved ridiculous money


    Yeah Hearns so at fault....
     
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  8. Robney

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    Besides it being clear it's Arum and Fury being at fault here, WHAT'S UP WITH THE HUGE BOLD CAPITAL FONT?!
     
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  9. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    Hearn is guilty of being naive and that's about it. I don't really know why Hearn gets so much hate, he's full of **** at times, but then what promoter isn't?
    He's likely within his rights to sue team Fury for loss of earnings considering they let this drag on over 5 months and could have 'allegedly' terminated the rematch in December (a point that's likely true considering team Fury have had days to refute this).
    I can't help but think this was intentional from Fury and his team to mess with Joshua and Hearn and get one over on them.
    Problem is that its the sport and fans that also suffer, as we now get Fury and Wilder again, when except for a small minority of Wilder fans, no one cares. The only mystique to this fight is if Wilder can land a lucky home run punch, or Fury just overlooks him.
    Joshua and usyk could be interesting if we see the version of Usyk from the super 6, but so far at heavyweight he's looked less than impressive. Chisora was there to style out on, instead he labors to a decision in a tough fight.
     
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  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Hearn is def an idiot here but it is so incomparable to Furys Team that it's truly not worthy of mentioning.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    The irony in Wilder calling someone else deluded is almost poetic.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Most definitely. It's mind bubbling. Only a half human, half hybrid would have the audacity to say such a thing.
     
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  13. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Winkel exposes Hearn here quite clearly. I stand by my theory that Hearn knew Wilder could very well put a spanner in the works but was simply rolling the dice and did all the organisation because it gave him control and more profit. If Wilder had lost, Hearn would be in the driving seat having done all the networking and deals. Now he acts like it's his first year as a promoter and was simply fooled by everyone.
     
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  14. Unforgiven

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    Finkel's just saying what every intelligent person who has followed this is thinking. What we already KNOW.
    Finkel is 100% on the money.

    Bob Arum was over-confident in thinking he would winning the arbitration, and was preparing for either eventuality.

    Eddie Hearn has been trying to spin the thing all along. Of course, I agree, IT IS NOT HIS FAULT the fight is not happening. And, yes, he did work hard to get a deal on the table, a deal that Tyson Fury clearly would have been happy to go for !
    But you'd have to be an idiot to think Hearn was "naive" or "duped" and "fooled by" Bob Arum, just taking it for granted that the arbitration wouldn't prevent it.
    He knew full well that this thing could collapse due to the arbitration. He knew. And let's face it, we all knew, but we deluded ourselves as fans, or operated on wishful thinking. It was only the Wilder fans (all two of them) who keep it there in the narrative.

    Finkel is correct.
    Anyone with a brain would see that, and admit it.
     
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  15. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearn and Mtcroom are not privy to the contract details, they could only go on what Arum said which "Abitration wouldn't be a issue" and "Wilder doesn't have a leg to stand on legally".

    Matchroom assumed that Top Rank and Queensberry couldn't be that incompetent and tired to make a undisputedfight for their fighter (as they have attempted to do for several years). Even Fury coming out and saying he would never fight Wilder again after his ludicrous accusations and excuses.

    As John Fury stated it's Furys team **** up. Warren pretty much admitted to it to in not so many words..
     
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