Team GGG explains the Ward situation

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  1. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    ROFL, when the hell have you shot any of my points down? :lol:

    You've been getting destroyed and now you're running. Rofl!

    The only thing you're TRYING to do is justifying a bull**** catchweight request and you're even failing at that!!!
     
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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    This isn't anything we didn't already know.

    Anyone who thinks/expects Golovkin to face Ward seriously needs to share whatever the heck they're smoking.

    Golovkin's people aren't going to let him anywhere near Ward, because Ward is light years more talented than Golovkin, and Golovkin's people know that Ward would dominate and embarrass Golovkin. GGG's people don't want their fighter to get battered and embarrassed by Ward. Why would they?

    It really is this simple, people.

    Golovkin will continue to dominate his natural weight class where he is head and shoulders above the rest, and they will continue to pretend there is some monstrous gap in popularity between GGG and Ward - as if it was the same as the gap between Floyd and GGG.

    The irony in this, is that GGG fans embrace the excuses GGG uses to avoid Ward, but they get their panties in a bunch, *****ing and moaning like school girls when Cotto and Canelo avoid GGG for the very same reasons.

    BOTTOM LINE - Ward is way too good and far too talented for Golovkin, and Golovkin's people are smart enough to understand this, and they don't want Golovkin to lose before they finish exploiting him.

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, Aug 20, 2015
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  3. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    :deal

    It's the same reason Froch retired avoiding the rematch
     
    Imperial1, Aug 20, 2015
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  4. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't disagree with that, I'd personally like nothing more than Ward to end the Golovkin hypetrain, I'm only referring specifically to the course of action that his team is taking to lengthen his stay at the "top".

    exactly :deal
     
    northpaw, Aug 20, 2015
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  5. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Andre Ward - not ranked by any organization, got stripped of all of his belts except WBA which GGG already holds. Brings no views, money or excitement.

    164 50-50 offer was made, Ward refused :roll: :lol:
     
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  6. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    He's still the best smw on the planet

    The current smw champ
    Has twice the resume GGG has

    GGG would,have fought Chavez jr at 168 and Froch but with Ward he needs a catch weight of 164 ..Yeah it's obvious someone is scared and it ain't Ward !:lol:
     
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  7. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's what it should actually say.
     
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  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Ward is not relevant to the casual fans. And they pay bills. Casual fans watch GGG, they don't watch Ward (can't blame them, Ward is pretty boring, great, but boring).
     
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  9. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Ward isn't scared what's wrong with 164? Why does he need a big size advantage instead of meeting in the middle? Anyway, the bus has passed Ward by. He'll be begging for a deal that good after Oct. who is Andre fighting on that undercard, anyway?
     
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  10. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cotto - Canelo wasn't a duck. The huge money fight takes precedent, and GGG is next in line. That makes more dollars and sense for everyone.

    I've asked you before Rummy, and I reiterate- where's the money coming from for this fight if it's not PPV? Andre isn't taking a paycut from 2 million, and GGG isn't (and shouldn't) fight for short money if he's moving up. HBO won't put that much of their budget into one single fight.

    Unless you think all of boxing is ducking Andre Ward, his lack of activity explains itself. He refuses to budge in negotiations unless everything is his way, and that tactic only works if you're a cash cow. Dre isnt. Andre gets paid alot, but he doesn't deliver the returns for the people backing his fights.

    He's Winky Wright negotiating like he's Floyd Mayweather, and wondering why there's not a line of people willing to give him every single concession.
     
    Rock0052, Aug 20, 2015
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  11. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    How can you be scared if you send a valid offer? What exactly do you want GGG to do? Dump his belts, go up to 168 and fight Ward in Oakland with a split in Ward's favor? Is that it?

    Thank God you guys aren't his manager or promoter.
     
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  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Makes sense.

    He wants to unify MW before moving up.

    That's what I want from him anyways.
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 20, 2015
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  13. comanick

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    This is it in a nutshell and I dont have a big problem with that in general, just stop talking about ward, stop acting like you are the baddest man from 154 -168, stop acting like all the good fighters are avoiding you. Just stay in your lane, beat on overmatched comp, and shut up.
     
    comanick, Aug 20, 2015
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  14. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So wrong. This is believing what fits your agenda. The GGG/Ward doesn't make any sense. I don't even know how they'd make it financially work, especially regarding their purses. Ward would have to concede a lot, and he just isn't going to do that. While he should because he's not even B side. He's C side.
     
    abuffy, Aug 20, 2015
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  15. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Scared why should make concessions to the guy that fights south of his division of GGG ain't scared why not fight Ward at 168 like he was ready to do against Chavez Jr and Froch ?

    The bus has passed :lol: sure it has that's the excuse GGG and his fans will make to keep sucking the fight..
     
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