Team Lomachenko: Manny Pacquiao Fight Happens ONLY @ 135 — NO CATCHWEIGHT.

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  1. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    He's already the GOAT, but yeah, cre cre.
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe they are right about you Lance, roflmao.
     
  3. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the long shot. But yea it would be something.
     
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  4. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How about you try to man up and give proper retorts? That's what I did amid your childish anger rants. Can you do that?
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's not ****ing clear to you at this point?? Lomo could cement his greatness and become a PPV star at the same time. He has all the advantages if they could move an inch on the weight.

    Btw, do you know... wtf, do you know what a retort is?
     
  6. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    BTW, y'all.

    Pacquiao couldn't have been more than 148/149 in the Matthysse fight. When Lomachenko fought Salido, Salido was 148. NO EXCUSES!!!
     
  7. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ooh...more anger and cussing. :rolleyes:

    Loma is cementing his legacy as we watch. And, as I have already shown, just beating a PPV star doesn't mean one will become the next. I've provided examples, to which you later added, "Has to be clean and w/o controversy" pr whatever.

    Why didn't SSM become a huge star after his first win over Goldy? Here we had a good looking fighter, undefeated w/ KO power. Didn't happen. Buster Douglass didn't become a major PPV star either after KOing Tyson. Arturo Gatti become a minor draw, yet bigger than most in boxing (Bigger than Floyd mayweather at the time), but which PPV star did he beat to get there?

    Major PPV draws don't happen over night, or with ONE fight. In fact, most NEVER become a major draw. The Floyd's, the Manny's, the Oscars...they are the exception to the rule, not the norm.
     
  8. anjawnaymiz

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    I’m still upset about rigondeaux performance
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First bold, my first reply to you I used "cleanly" you ****ing numbnuts. You just make crap up as you go and ignore what has been written. Maybe that's why everyone who tries to debate with you ends up !@#$ lol. And really the point is simple as **** and you still keep BSing around. You don't want Lomo to fight, ok. Just ****ing say so you fool.

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/team-lomachenko-manny-pacquiao-fight-happens-only-135-—-no-catchweight.610938/page-2#post-19294170
     
  10. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OK...reposting what you already did. So...since you had a hard on for showing you said 'cleanly'...what about SSM? Buster Douglas? Arturo Gatti?

    What did I make up? If I forgot you said cleanly at first, then my apologies. Forgive me for not remembering every single word said. See, that's not hard to do. EVERYONE makes mistakes here. Some are just too immature or stubborn to admit it.

    Everyone who tries to debate me...aside form a few of the usual idiots who argue and insult everyone (And you know they tend to do that), I get along with most, even in disagreement. But a few of you, you take a disagreement as a sign of war and act like spoiled brats instead.

    You are an adult, right? Act like one.
     
  11. dangerousity

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    Obviously not but you’re being disingenuous if you think this won’t do anything for lomas legacy and name. Pac and Floyd became a star after beating ODLH because they were winning outside of that fight, it wasn’t considered a robbery either. If you rob a legend, you’ll just get more hate.

    You can’t just beat a legend and not do anything after either, e.g buster douglas. You basically got to beat the legend and show that you deserved to beat the legend on the night and long after.

    And Horn became 10x the star after beating Pac, now imagine he did it without the fouling, without the robbery and went on to carry on winning. He’d be huge.

    So state the obvious, you don’t need to beat a star to be one, but it certainly does help.

    Loma has nothing to lose from taking this fight, except actually losing the fight, which says a lot about how confident he is.

    Funny thing is, as I said, pac went up 3 weight classes in a year, they’re only asking Loma to move up 2 if that. His reasoning doesn’t make sense either, it’s contradictory:

    1st he says he won’t fight pac cos he won’t get credit for fighting an old man. Yet he says he’ll fight him at 135, so he will get credit for fighting an old drained man? Which is it, pacs age or the weight. If it’s the weight then just say, if it’s age then it shouldn’t matter what weight it’s at.

    Pac hasnt made 140 in 9 years and will be 40, if anything it’s a much rawer deal for him to go to 140 than for Loma to go to 140, if we are to believe the people saying pac is a natural WW.
     
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  12. LANCE99

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    The only way ALL this is true would be if I actually said it wouldn't do anything. Never said that. But it doesn't matter how many weighty classes someone moved once before in a year. Different bodies acclimate better than some. Just a simple fact of anatomy.

    The whole "He said this, he said that.." doesn't interest me. It's just noise and distraction.

    I'm simply talking about Pac now, and how I believed at his age, he'd be drained and easily fatigued, had he agreed to some CW below 140. That's been my stance from the beginning of my posting on this.

    Maybe Manny can make a CW and be fine. Doesn't bode well, based on what older fighters moving down have done.

    Maybe Loma can make 140 and look strong. Maybe both look like crap in the same situation. It's a gamble.

    I'm not a big fan of the constant weight jumping. I prefer acclimation to allow their bodies to be at their best when moving, rather than targeting the weakest belt holder. Just my 2 cents.
     
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  13. dangerousity

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    Let’s face it, right now, if you were a betting man, pac would be favourite against anyone at 140. That includes Mikey Garcia. The only time he’s ever been an underdog is against Floyd post odlh.

    So fact that he’s probably still too dog at 140, top 5 in a packed WW and atg with a name says this is a fight Loma should take, unless he’s scared to lose. Which is what we call ducking.

    It would be the perfect passing of the torch, from former p4p #1 to current p4p #1. A southpaw who confuses opponents with angles, a lot like himself.
     
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  14. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure, at 140. With Crawford out, he could possibly go to 140 and win the belts.

    If Loma is ducking a fighter who isn't even in that division (140), that he TOO is not even fighting in...well. OK I guess.
     
  15. RingKing75

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    The guy is a small 135lber who got dropped in his first outing at that weight. Now its a duck because he doesnt want to move up another 5 lbs to fight one of the best punchers in the sport over the last 25 years? wow bro! Just wow!