Team Pac handling things incorrectly

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigReg, Dec 22, 2009.


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  1. Phenix

    Phenix Capo Full Member

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    Just went to another boxing forum and they have pictures of Pac getting a new tatoo. Wow for someone who has a phobia about needles, a tatoo. Pac got some explaining to do.
     
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  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    The current standard in terms of weight is that the fighter has 2hrs to burn it off if they are overweight. If they are still overweight then they are fined by the commission. However, Pac has no problem going beyond this and demanding Floyd pay $10 mill for every lb. over the limit. Besides, team Pac does not object to the testing, which renders your point moot. They said they are all for it. However, they want to decide when their fighter is tested. Now if this doesn't comprimise the integrity of the testing, then that should be fine. If it does comprimise the integrity of the testing system that Team Pac claims they are all for, then obviously there is a problem.
     
    BigReg, Dec 22, 2009
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  3. ceebz

    ceebz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not the needles, it's the act of drawing blood right before a 12-round championship fight, that they don't want.
     
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  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Ok then, if the USADA is ok with this then there is no problem. However, what if the USADA says that they cannot properly administer the test if there is no testing within a week of the fight?
     
    BigReg, Dec 22, 2009
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  5. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Terrible comparison. Mayweather did actually screw Marquez over in his last fight when he already had every advantage so it stands to reason they would have that clause. I didn't see Pacquiao testing positive for roids in his last fight, maybe I missed that judging by peoples suspicion on here.
     
    TFFP, Dec 22, 2009
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  6. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Pacquiao is still going beyond the current standards. It's been proven over and over again that athletes can beat a urine test. If Pac was caught from a urnine test then they wouldn't need any additional tests as it would've been proven that the urine test was sufficient. Furthermore, against Marquez, Floyd was asked to come in a at 144. He hadn't come in that low in several years. In this fight, Floyd is being asked to come in at 147, he has never shown any problems making the WW limit. Also, if team Pac said they were against the addtional tests all together out of prinicipal, they would have a point. However, they claim they are all for the additional tests. If that's the case, then why not properly comply?
     
    BigReg, Dec 22, 2009
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  7. ceebz

    ceebz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And what makes you think Mayweather won't be given that chance to burn off the weight?

    Seriously, you clowns making an issue of the $10-mil penalty are ****ing clueless. Pac is protecting his wallet here, if Mayweather decides to not even try and cut the weight, just like he did in his last fight, Pac doesn't want to walk away with nothing because the biggest $ fight ever didn't come off.

    And no, my point isn't moot because Pac obviously has a problem with the randomness of the tests, which are part of the USADA standard that Mayweather wants.
     
    ceebz, Dec 22, 2009
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  8. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    Again what's going to be there 3 days before the fight that is not there a week before, and post fight test is already been agreed upon.
     
    Bee KeepZ, Dec 22, 2009
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  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    The fight is taking place in the US, so the USADA has jurisdiction here. That's not the case for the the Filipino athletic commission.
     
    BigReg, Dec 22, 2009
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  10. nhojrem

    nhojrem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    how sure are you this time he'll stick to his words..?
     
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  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You keep asking the same thing. I don't administer drug tests, so I can't properly answer this. However, what if the USADA said that they would not be able to test properly if team Pacquiao did not allow their fighter to get tested within the week of the fight? If the USADA has no problem with Pac's request then neither do I, they are the experts. But what if they do have a problem with it?
     
    BigReg, Dec 22, 2009
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  12. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    The only one asking for a clause based on a concern rooted in reality is Pacquiao. Mayweather DID fail to weigh in at the weight he agreed to in only his last fight. I agree Mayweather would be unlikely to not weigh in under 147 but its simply being firm about that on Team Pacquiao's part.

    Mayweather is asking for something based on nothing, and it happens to be quite insulting too.
     
    TFFP, Dec 22, 2009
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  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Impossible to talk sense with these *******s.

    Pac won't wants a random drug test on the days he wants.


    How can that be random?

    I agree though, if the dates Pac wants, dont mess with the integrity of the test, then let Pac have those dates. Although still kind of fishy as it is, agreeing upon the test, then backing out.
     
    eze, Dec 22, 2009
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  14. Farmboxer

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    Nothing wrong with Pac having blood test right after the fight as he has agreed to do.
     
    Farmboxer, Dec 22, 2009
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  15. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Mayweather agreed to the penalty, so that's fine. My only point is that both Pacquiao and Mayweather have both made requests that are above and beyond the standard. Also, you claim that the problem is that the aditional tests go above and beyond the standard and that they should stick to the standard. However, team Pac claims they are willing to go above and beyond but want to pick and chose the testing dates. Again, if the USADA is fine with this, then I have no problem. However, if they object then Pacquaiao should comply with the testing dates.
     
    BigReg, Dec 22, 2009
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