Team Pacquiao concerned with penalties if blood test(s) come back dirty

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  1. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    U know any news more than just what we got on the media...I know you stay in the gym and I was wondering if you heard anything some of us might not have at your boxing gym?
     
  2. el_caviteno

    el_caviteno Member Full Member

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    Oh man, you are ****ing stupid. Take the test, FILE THE ****ING PETITION!! You just don't get it do you? You're dumb as ****.

    Okay let me just simplify matters for you by asking a simple question.
    Junior's camp are so adamant that before Junior will fight PAC, Olympic style drug testing or a more stringent test be put in place for this fight to proceed. Now by PAC declining this demand, will Junior and his camp stop there?

    If they strongly believe in this cause so that it's a fair playing field all across the board yet they don't go through with having stricter measures in place in their next fights, what does that tell you about their intent?

    It's a simple question.
     
  3. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No need to get personal bro. Maybe you should go for a walk to release some of your anger. I was kidding around with the knuckle children comment, but really I am not hearing anything new with your argument.

    Filing a petitiion and changing boxing laws take months if not years. As discussed on this board at length, the random blood test (no longer "olympic style") is a part of the actual fight contract for this one fight as is the weight, purse split, penalties for coming in over weight, etc. Why did Manny fight Cotto at 145 catchweight when the WW limit is 147 and still win the WW belt? Who is Manny to change the welterweight weight limit that has been in place for decades? Floyd has every right to request random blood testing in the biggest fight of his life against an opponent who many believe is cheating.

    ;)
     
  4. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    well, nothing out of the norm.....but i will tell you this, little by little everyone is siding with floyd....manny aint doing himself a favor by not signing the ****en contract....i mean, seriously...what the **** does he got to hide..........sure the accusations were made, and maybe some people should've kept their mouth shut, but pac could've ended this a very long time ago.....
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    That's pretty bad, why would they even be concerned and try to hide it?

    Sounds all the more fishy to me.
     
  6. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    where you been at you little ****nut.....
     
  7. moshimoshi

    moshimoshi New Member Full Member

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    There's only one reason why someone would:

    1. Agree to tests on specific dates known in advance

    and

    2. Refuse to take tests without prior notification (aka random tests)

    The truth is as plain as it is ugly.

    But Mayweather must be kicking himself now that he might lose the biggest money fight of his career. He probably just hoped to get on Pac's nerves (mainly) and also ensure a clean fight (just in case).

    But I doubt he really believed it. The possibility's only firmed up since the ball was in Pacquiao's court.
     
  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Same here..I was down at cityboxing in SD...I go a few times a week now and when I was there last weed everyone was saying "Floyd is at fault"..now I noticed there starting to say "Pac needs to test or it's clear he on something"... I know as a pro athlete it's very good, especially in today's sports world, to show your clean when your requested of it...Manny is mos def not GAINING ANYTHING out of not taking the RANDOM blood tests..a shame for boxing and for young and upcoming fighters such as those in ur team that wouldn't mind giving them at all
     
  9. DatBo215

    DatBo215 Active Member Full Member

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    :good Only the blind, biased, or dumb see it any other way. Putting a stipulation in a contract is far from a new practice and is in fact something Manny has benefited greatly from recently. Mayweather isn't requesting to/or needs to change boxing laws rules or traditions to include this stipulation in his contract. This contract can however set a precedent.
     
  10. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :lol:

    Busy. I pop on a lot to read not a lot of time to post.
     
  11. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Source is crap

    here is a picture of the author of that article of lies....(on left) Think he isn't a bit bias?

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    It is sad how racial people make this.... I think black athletes cheat and use PEDs so much they believe that everyone must do the same... It is ****ing nuts to keep tainting Pacman's name, and I can't wait to see this go to court. Why do you think Mayweather has kept his mouth shut about Pacquiao taking PEDs now? He knows he is full of **** and that he may not only get the 40 million $ payday, but may get sued and lose $$.
     
  12. el_caviteno

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    You still don't get my point and you still haven't answered my question.

    I agree with you where it's highlighted, which poses another question to mind (but that's another discussion altogether). This **** all began with news of Juniors camp wanting Olympic style drug testing as they're not happy with the current procedures undertaken by NSAC. So NSAC Executive Director, Keith Kizer, already stated in an interview posted on ESB, that in order for changes to be made, petitions need to be filed (understandably it'll take time) but as of yet, Juniors Team have not filed a petition.

    My question again, if they really believe in having a level playing field, protecting their fighters, why stop with PAC? Why not push through and file that ****ing petition??

    Perhaps they're busy or have other pressing matters to attend to. I'll give them that. But if after all of this bull****, they decide not to file a petition to change what they've been bitching about, then in my eyes, they have no ****ing credibility whatsoever.

    IMO, they're ****ing scums who went too far in hyping this mother****ing fight. At the expense of a fighter who's passed all of his tests before and after a fight. A fighter who's given us some of the best fights out there. Damn what a ****ing waste.
     
  13. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    same here...this ****en year hasn't even ended yet and i already have ****en plans for the first 6 months of next year......anyways, this whole ****en fiasco is starting to turn me into a mayweather fan....
     
  14. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In reality, they are focusing on Pac 1) because something is fishy and 2) because it is a dangerous fight for Floyd (there, I said it). I don't really think he cares about the state of boxing without him nor would he give a **** if Matthew Hatton was taking PED's if they were to fight. Floyd dummies him whenever he feels like it when they fight no matter what Matty is taking.

    Pac has a chance to knock Floyd out. He has the punching power and speed to do it. I personally don't think he will, but he certainly has a pretty good chance. Floyd probably thinks that Manny is cheating and wants to make sure he isn't stepping into the ring with a cheater. Therefore, if Manny is clean and knocks Floyd out, we will all have to give Manny the credit he deserves.

    But it is within the right of boxers to add stipulations for fights as another poster mentioned above, Pac has benefitted more from it than anyone in recent memory. Especially this one, biggest fight in each of their careers. Especially now, I will feel cheated if they don't proceed with random blood testing.

    Is it fair that Mayweather is focusing on Pac and not the rest of the sport? Maybe not and I'm not completely disagreeing with your point. My point is that it's within Floyd's right to do so.

    This is also driving Manny nuts while Floyd is sitting somewhere laughing. Mind games will always be a part of boxing and Floyd is definitely kicking Manny's ass there.
     
  15. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know all in all, this stuff is not important. NSAC this, lawyers that. Petitions and Lawsuits...I just want to know what the **** is at the root of all this??? Is it that Floyd asked for a blood test in HIS fight, or is it that Pac refused to take it, and has been running scared and playing defense every since???

    Its not that difficult, sign the contract, take the blood test, and then fight. People do it every day in sports, Pac has done it in the past, give blood that is. Even Arum has admitted to that.

    Problem with *******s like yourself is, your too busy making excuses to actaully stop and think about objectively what the **** is going on. Team Pac is to blame for thier own mess, and all this finger pointing still doesnt answer the question, "Why not take the test?" excuses like

    1-No one had to do it before
    2-I never tested + before
    3-Floyd dont set the policies
    4-Is all fighters going to have to
    5-Its thier fault

    Just dont ****ing work, not when all he had to do is take it. If he is clean then he has nothing to worry about, no random test should be enough reason not to take a 40 million dollar fight. The more they fight it the worst that it gets, but *******s dont get that.