Um Floyd denied Mannynthe 14 day cut off what are you talking about ? And it's Floyd IV who ducked the fight because he insisted on being dirty and testing with a dirty organization when Arum and company wanted the Vada ....We all know why now ..TUE TUE ..How does it feel,to be a fan of a hypocrite ..Cleaing up the sport
When did he deny him, two years later when #48 assumed he'd get the same offer after ducking the first time?! Come on man how long you been following boxing, Salt Water turned down the 50/50 and 14 day cut off when he left the table and signed to fight Clottey! 100% ***** move!
The problem with you Salt Water fans is you try to blur the different negotiations together, in 2010 the year you claim Pac is prime and most capable of beating Floyd, #48 was offered 50/50 with a 14 day OST cut off...there was no leave Arum, wear these gloves, sign with GBD, sign with TMT, no catchweights, no KO6, it was the best and fairest contract ever! And what did the scared Arum and #48 do, run to Josh Clottey! Floyd tried his best to make the fight, even using a mediator to get #48 to sign...Arum wanted no parts of it, he feared losing his cash cow before he juiced him for all he's worth first. Top Rank's plan was to always cash #48 out against Floyd at the END of his career! Open your stubborn eyes and accept the truth!
poor Code Ped. hey man, it's ironic because you keep using the word 'salt water' to mean something, when in fact it was what your hero injected himself with - a procedure that was WITHOUT PERMISSION prior to the fight.
WTF is that people don't understand that Manny's style fighting depends primarily upon physical attributes that are dependent on natural athleticism and youth. Floyd maybe older, but there is a much bigger difference between the Pacquiao of today and the one of 2010, whereas that is not the case with Floyd, whom hardly missed a beat. I still had Pacquiao winning 5 rounds.
It has nothing to do with being a Manny or Floyd fan, its about being rational. Do you feel that its your obligation to defend Floyd at every turn? Your love of Floyd has blinded you so much that he can't do anything wrong in your eyes. When Manny turned down the fight because of drug testing, I put the blame on him. But if Floyd was so eager to make the fight, how come he keep on insisting on more when Mannys camp would agree to one of his demands? IF you believe Floyd was always eager to make the fight then you're wrong, it would have been a done deal a long time ago, he was the one that kept delaying it because he kept wanting more knowing the other side wouldn't' agree to it and he sold it as if it wasn't his fault and you and the other die hards ate it all up. He said he was clean and Manny was dirty, but after all these years, the only thing that's come out about Manny is pure speculation. There are more things about Floyd that is questionable and although there is no hard evidence, his circumstance are far more suspicious than Manny's.
All I gave you in that post was truth, I never have to go into fantasy fiction to defend Floyd or any fighter! Maybe if those who talk sh_t about Floyd could do it without bending the truth or flat out making things up I wouldn't bother to write rebuttals. You guys can't make the argument that Pac would of beat Floyd 5 years ago had Floyd taken the fight....you mean had Manny and Arum taken the fight! Floyd signed the contract, they were waiting for Pac, they gave him everything he asked for and he still ran from the table! What amazes me is how you and others can defend Pac after this, it was a blatant duck and it happened to be during the time period you all claim he would of been best able to beat Floyd! Well apparently Team Pac didn't think so, they preferred to wait till "Mayweathers legs were gone!" Guess they still waiting!
If you read carefully, you would notice that I did blame Manny when he didnt take the drug test. The problem is, all you have is that one time that he didnt agree. What about all the other negotiations that took place after that, have you forgotten about those? I already gave Floyd the benefit of the doubt but year after year Floyd comes up with yet another demand that he knows would not be accepted, yet you all go back to that one time Manny didn't agree. You assume that I'm only a fan of Manny, but the thing is, i'm a fan of Floyd also, the difference between you and me is, I actually criticize both fighters equally. Yeah Manny ducked when he refused the drug testing, but Floyd ducked year after year after that. Can you honestly say Floyd is 100% without fault? If you think he is completely innocent then you really need to wake up.
The other time he refused 40 million which is more than he ever made, he sure is picky for a guy who claims he fights for the people not money
if Manny took the Floyd test and the 40M, what would you think at that time if Manny was discovered IV'ing in his house in LA? would you give him props for being with Floyd in "cleaning up the sport"? :rofl:rofl:rofl