Team Pacquiao: "Manny Won't Make Any Concessions For A Future Mayweather Fight"

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Man please. The fight was never happening. Arum had no intention to. Manny is a cheat.

    FNF will go on to start the ball rolling to solidify this. When Manny gets his lawyers computers pulled in as evidence in the lawsuit it will ALL come out in the open.
     
  2. bollocks

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    It's subject to interpretation. To me, as long as there is a provision to wear 8 oz gloves, then it isn't a concession. What I would say a concession made by Floyd is when Pac asks to wear a 6 oz gloves and Floyd agrees.

    ...anyway, our discussion is moot as the link above showed that Floyd's camp did not ask Pac to wear 10oz gloves.
     
  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. No. No. Yes, per the PPV history, but Mayweather gave in on that too.

    My point is that Mayweather had few demands. He also NEVER flip-flopped, though he did work with Team Pac. Team Pac and Arum didn't want to fight. Period.

    This latest crap goes on to show exactly that.
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No someone had to ASK to change the rules and both had to agree. Manny asked. Mayweather agreed. He constantly let Manny set the tone.
     
  5. Yagi

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    You do have a point. But it really is a non issue since Mayweather never demanded 10 oz gloves to begin with.
     
  6. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Good. Now Pac will go onto another top notch fight and Floyd will probably fight Rafael Marquez.
     
  7. bollocks

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    Didn't Floyd choose the venue and only gave Manny 2 options for the date? With random blood testing being added as well, it is Floyd setting the tone.
     
  8. See Me Flow

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  9. bald_head_slick

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    Yes FMJ did choose the venue. The venue in Dallas has a Walmart and Discount tire (car repair shop) outside. This venue is NOT ready for a world class fight.

    The dates were chosen by Team Pacquio. Then when FMJ agreed, they said it was too soon. Manny over ruled them and said he would fight on the dates anyway.

    Mayweather (publicly) has so far asked for:

    01. Top Billing - agreed
    02. Venue - agreed
    03. Olympic style testing with a 14 day testing cut off (after compromise and still available!)

    Point 3 is the part that Team Pac will NOT agree too. They have so far stated that Pac is afraid of needles, superstitious, was weakened by giving blood, and finally won't give in.

    How does anyone see Mayweather as having a hand in this?
     
  10. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny Walked Away from the fight...end of story, case closed.....I think he is 100% clean....but the steroid talk will always hang over him...
     
  11. dilayro

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    I can't help but laugh at your post.

    Now that Arum and manny have turned sour to Floyd's hard ball stance and called the fight off, Floyd suddenly became vocal, gave interview and declared he wants the fight.

    Before mediation, he won't compromise on any testing, now the fight is off he goes full blast on the blame game. The irony of Floyd.
     
  12. bollocks

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    Sorry dude, I didn't get the memo that you are the final arbiter that determines the readiness of a boxing venue. Kidding aside though, several other world class fights with more significance (e.g. Thrilla in Manila, Rumble in the Jungle) than the Pac vs PBF match had been held in places far less ready than a stadium with 100K seating capacity and a gazillion foot HD TV screen. Sorry, but I don't buy the argument that the Cowboys Stadium isn't ready for any boxing match.

    The story that I know was that GBP and Arum met first then Arum flew to Manila to let Pacquiao know of the chosen dates (plus the other details of the contract)· Since none of us are privy to Schaefer's and Arum's meeting, then I can concede that both parties agreed to the chosen date. Without any proofs though, I will not believe that it was Team Pacquiao that chose the date and Mayweather just agreed.

    So according to what you said above, Pac agreed to at least 2 of Mayweather's request. That then blows the argument that some people are making that Pac never made any concessions. In fact, looking at the 3 examples you mentioned above, it was all Mayweather trying to control the terms of the fight.
     
  13. bald_head_slick

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    No you are a fool. The article is on the web that Arum went INTO negotiations knowing that there was a 14 day testing cut off. Team Pac STILL would not agree. Why? They don't want to blood test fool!

    Well actually, according to a certain scene, Team Pac lied and said FMJ didn't say 14 days until after:

    http://www.***********.com/?m=show&id=24562

    Then Team Pac came back and told the truth but still didn't agree to fight:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=198553&page=2

    Per this site *******! :deal
     
  14. sandy mac

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    Both fighters wanted 'Vegas.Floyd agreed to all pacs demands.Manny and freddy do'nt want the fight.If the scales are not itpped in thhier favor they do'nt fight.Why blame Floyd?More and more pac looks as if he does'nt want any part of Floyd and is hiding something.
     
  15. bald_head_slick

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    Dude, by your screen name I assume you are in the UK. And a fight is about more than the night of the damn fight. People make a weekend out of it. Why do you think the place is empty during the undercard? Everyone is enjoying themselves. If you are to dense to get why the average football stadium can't hold a candle to Vegas, Madison Square, or Atlantic City why am I even talking to you?

    Roach is in the press asking for the dates. Where have you been under a rock? The dates were chosen due to Manny's political aspirations. Any date would have worked for Mayweather. He wanted May 1st, but they couldn't do it based on the elections and time to campaign. Team Pac chose March 13th so that Manny would have enough time to campaign.

    No. It is a fight and I applaud Manny for agreeing. Mayweather agreed to Manny's requests too. I just didn't list them.

    01. Glove size/type - Passive so not a big issue and mutual
    02. Weight penalty - agreed ($10 million per pound)
    03. Purse Split - agreed
    04. Fight Dates - agreed

    If Manny had refused the tests from the outset I would have been fine with it. That is not what happened. He accepted and became increasingly more apprehensive. It ultimately resulted in the fight being canceled.