Team Pacquiao refuse drug testing. Fight in Jepordy

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  1. robpalmer135

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    it was 6 years after being at 130lbs
     
  2. dan-b

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    What about the rest of his post?
     
  3. icemax

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    Under olympic testing conditions the Mosley - Berto question would be moot as Sugar Shane wouldn't be able to compete...whats good for Marion Jones has to be good for Shane Mosley
     
  4. antcull

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    It will all get sorted in the end, just the usual on/off **** to be expected in a fight this big, just builds the hype.
     
  5. Siren1927

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    I agree its impossible, but Floyd has been very clever here, he has opened a can of worms in Boxing with regards to drug testing. He can get 90% of non pac fanbois on his side here for simply stating he wants to leave no doubt in anyone minds about the cleanliness of fighters.

    Floyd is also giving Pac the platform to "clear his name" if you will. Floyd has been smart with this one, unless your a hardcore boxing fan and this fight doesnt go ahead because of this issue. Then you will believe that Pac ducked Floyd.

    Casual fans only see whats on the news, and all they will see is that Pac refused drug testing, nothing more.

    In all fairness to Floyd hes a clever *******.

    Onto your second point, I disagree with you mate, I think most people, myself included want a drug free sport, and anything that can be done to further reduce the cheaters in our sport is only a good thing, however I I agree and dont think that most people in this thread are as concerned about this for the sport as they are for testing Pac.

    For the life of me I cant understand why people are so centered on a guy who has never failed a test when a proven user is fighting Berto next month :huh

    BTW if Pac did fail a drug test, shouldnt he just get the free pass RJJ fans gave him :rofl
     
  6. Siren1927

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    Thats a dam good point actually
     
  7. robpalmer135

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    I am not claiming to be an expert but I have read allot about drugs in sport and no that drug testing in boxing is really **** and urine, hair and blood are all needed to get conclusive results as the technoligy of the drugs are ahead of the the testing to they should make the test stricter and happen more frequently.

    I dont think anyone has come up with to many ideas because like me there shocked a system is not in place already. Its quite simple. If you are taking part in a world title fight you should have to undergo Olympic level drug testing which includes random blood testing up to 48 hours before a fight. There shouldnt even be a debate about this.


    I do think that the Olympic level drug testing would remove doubt as they use the same system more ahtletics and cycling and plenty of people have been getting caught. Infact the testing for boxing should be stricter as people are putting there life on the line.

    Ok the accusation first came from Mayweather Snr and people dismiss his opinion because hes not an academicly smart man but he knows boxing like the back of his hand.

    If you were about to put your life and career on the line and your own Dad who has a large knowledge of boxing has suspicions that the guy your fighting is taking something that will make him faster and punch harder, you would want to make sure he is not tested.

    btw Olympic level drug testing was reported to be part of the agreement made in principle 2 weeks ago so why the sudden change?
     
  8. dan-b

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    Right but it works for Pacquiao because we know what drugs he's on?
     
  9. robpalmer135

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    Honestly do not get why Mosley has not got more **** for it.
     
  10. dan-b

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    Reported, but we didn't hear it from the horses mouth. Lots of misinformation flying around about this fight.

    I understand what you're saying but you have to see it from the other point of view. No other boxer has been subjected to this, so it's obviously very personal. Why should Pac agree to more than he has already?

    As I said earlier, if this was being demanded in a fight no one cared about there would be none of the hoopla. So it's obvious this has more to do with people wanting to see the big fight rather than more testing in boxing.
     
  11. icemax

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    You and me together
     
  12. brown bomber

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    I' be suprised if both are found to be clean.
     
  13. kieron

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    I appreciate the practical, financial difficulties in applying more rigorous testing across the board but surely having Olympic type testing before any world title fight is better than simply saying it is impractical and won't work and therefore we won't impose these levels of testing at all. As someone pointed out the blood tests that are currently taken in boxing are primarily to ensure guys aren't HIV+ etc. If you're going to be so lax about the issue then we may as well just open the flood gates and remove all drug testing and let guys take what they want. More of a level playing field but imagine the implications!!
     
  14. dan-b

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    I don't disagree with you, but that's not what this is about. Floyd's not saying, "I want to revolutionise testing in boxing", he's jsut trying to get one over on Pac. Can't you see that?
     
  15. kieron

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    Of course that is the game that Mayweather is playing here but it has raised a bigger question. I was really commenting on the bigger picture. Specifically relating to this fight I tend to feel uneasy about 'special' rules being applied to a fighter because of who they are but on the other hand it is a demand in response to a demand so could be deemed as tit for tat in this case