Team Pacquiao Will Formally Request 145 lbs

This would be hilarious if Clottey refused the 145 lb catchweight and then out of nowhere the Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiations start up again.

 

Damn! Pac and his team wouild look like utter fools!

 

I think this are all staged to get people talking.

I dont think professional people are that stupid, you have to remember they are dealing with multi millions of $ here.

 

Clottey JUST gave an interview claiming that he would not want to and doesn't think he CAN make 145lbs and be healthy and ready to fight. Why the hell does Pac do this. This doesn't make the guy any smaller, it just makes him weaker. It's bull****, if you want to fight a guy who can easily weigh in at 145lbs then find another guy, don't go find big guys and then weaken them.

 

Exactly!!:good

 

I am in a different camp. I say if fighters can't make the upper limit, 147 in this case, then STOP fighting at this weight class. Welter weight is ANYTHING BETWEEN 141 to 147.
147 is welter weight.

It is just fighters trying to match up with smaller fighters by dehydrating to the maximum (often even passed that) in order to make the contracted weight.

If Clottey walks at 165+ and probably trains at 155+, then he is really a 154 fighter. Boxing has abused the dehydrating system that fans have this perception that if you fight 1 or 2 or even 3 pounds below the UPPER limit that you not fighting at the weight class.

It is BS that Clottey still tries to fight at 147.

 

Clottey doesn't try and fight at 144, he fights at 147. And for what you are talking about you would have to change to "Day of Fight Weigh Ins". Good Luck with that :deal

 

this is wack.

 

Exactly.

I happen to think this whole deal about the weigh-in happening 24 hours before the fight is some BS. It should be - you fight on the same day that you weigh in.

However, under the current rules, Clottey is a 147lb fighter. Not his fault the rules are f'ked up...

 

Of course you're fighting in the weighclass if you weight in at two or three pounds beneath the limit. You are not fighting in the weightclass if you also demand that your opponent come in two or three pounds beneath the limit. The weightclass is DEFINED by the limit. If you change it you have created a new weightclass.

And same day weigh-ins were once the norm, but they were changed because guys were still dehydrating themselves and killing themselves to make the weight, and were doing terrible damage to their bodies by then fighting in a dehydrated state. The change was made for the health of the fighters.

If you changed to same day weigh-ins you'd still get huge guys cutting weight, more of them would just die in the ring, and fights would be a lot uglier. Also, Pac spent a lot of his later career cutting 15 or so pounds before fights, so I guess he's just been a natural JWW beating up small guys for the past five years or so?

 

Idiot! The maximum a fighter can come in at welter is 147. If Pac decides to come in at 145 thats his problem but let the other fighter come in at his weight. You *******s are getting annoying as ****. Why should the limit be changed just because Pac wants it changed?

 

They will not. Part of the reason weigh ins are not done in the same day is because fighters try to rehydrate back so fast that it can KILL THEM. Too much liquid too fast causes water intoxication and hyponatremia.

If boxers did not abuse dehydration so much they could easily hydrate at small amounts, thus do weigh in at the same day.

Idiot learn to read AND comprehend.

The point is, fighters now abuse dehydration so much that even with weigh ins you can easily have fighters occupying two sometime three DIFFERENT weight class during the fight. You can have one fighter at welter while the other at middle weight.
This DEAFEATS the whole purpose of weight classes. Technology, medical science, and money is ahead of the current rules and practices of boxing in regards to weight.

Clottey apparently has missed several 147 weigh ins already. This should give you a clue that a fighter of his body type is not a WW anymore. But he refuses to go up in weight probably because he can't handle fighters of his natural size.

I don't care about the 145 Clottey and Pac agreement. That is between them. But the whole 147 or nothing is a stupid argument IMO.



Edit - I corrected my "144" but after some people already quoted the original comment.

 

Actually it does matter. The whole POINT of weigh in is to maintain a competitive balance. This is why weigh ins used to be done the DAY OF the fight - to ensure fighters are fighting at agreed upon weight.
But fighters abused dehydration so much that hydration within the same day became a medical liability (killing boxers). So instead of telling boxers stop abusing dehyrating/hydrating, they moved the weigh in instead to several days before the fight.

Now you get this -- a natural x class fighter often fighting an opponent 1 or 2 weight class above them.

 

Wow man. I don't know if this is true. I am a Mayweather supporter and I want to say I don't want to believe anything negative about Manny unless it is in an official press release or on ESPN where people reporting actually have journalistic standards. So even though it would make my day? I won't believe this... yet.

My opinion on the matter is that we may need to revisit Nate Campbell's words objectively. Manny is between a rock and a hard place. If he stays at WW, all roads lead to Mayweather. If he goes down, all roads lead to Tim Bradley. Tough situation indeed.