Team Wilder rejecting the DAZN $100 million AJ fight deal in 2019 was a massive blunder

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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  2. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don’t think he actually lost out on any money. I remember reading somewhere that Haymon price matched DAZN’s offer so he was making 30+ mil per fight on the backend of his PBC deal. Also no lucrative Fury trilogy if he gets laid out by AJ in 2019.
     
  3. FrankinDallas

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    Yes, he ducked but had he taken the fight he would have lost out on three Fury fights. $5 mill for the first one, plus PPV
    $5 mill for second plus a reported $25 in PPV, $25 mill for third plus PPV.

    That's a ton of money. And no way was he offered $100 mill to fight AJ.
     
  4. Badbot

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    I might be wrong, but SHO paid a lot of money for the Wilder vs Breazeale fight. It was easily over 10 million.
    This came with the caveat that SHO were to carry the Wilder-Fury II PPV. But Haymon just used SHO to keep Wilder content and it was FOX who got the PPV rights, with ESPN.
    SHO also paid handsomely for Wilder vs Ortiz II.

    I don´t know why Espinoza let Haymon take advantage of him like that. There was at one point even a quote from Espinoza in the lines of: "SHO has the first call on the best fights from PBC. FOX isn´t entitled to anything." But it was clear to everyone that FOX was getting the best PBC had to offer while SHO was left with crap like Lara vs Foreman. Crap they grossly overpaid for.
     
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  5. Badbot

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    He was. Meetings were held.
    But Haymon got him a sweet payday vs Breazeale and then the Fury rematch.
     
  6. Brighton bomber

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    Yeah I think that was the counter offer to the $12.5 mill offer from Hearn. Hearn was given 24 hrs to agree to the deal which obviously is a ludicrous demand as deals often take weeks if not months to agree all the countless details before even sending contracts. Finkel then refused to meet Hearn or even sent a contract for them to look at.

    Hearn countered with a $15 mill deal later on, which was also rejected in 2018. Eventually Wilder did agree to an undisclosed flat fee. Hearn sent the contracts and then heard nothing back. Hearn went public with this and still they refused to sign the deal and came back demanding 2 amendments to the contract, which Hearn agreed to and again they still didn't sign the new contract. Eventually the WBA ran out of patience and demanded the Povetkin mandatory be made. Which is what Wilder and Finkel were likely waiting for, so they could say they agreed to fight but ran out of time due to the mandatory situation.

    Wilder then around the time of the Povetkin fight demanded 50/50 publicly. Hearn rejected that given their disparity in ability to generate revenue. Wilder then doubled down on that an demanded 60/40 in his favour, lol. Hearn eventually agreed to give Wilder 50/50 if Wilder/Fury did 1 mill PPV buys, it did 325K buys in the US.
     
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  7. Brighton bomber

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    That link doesn't actually confirm Joshua ducked Wilder on the contrary it confirms the deal offered was never really viable because it would have meant violating his then remaining 6 fight deal with sky which was worth 90 million to him. He would have one been sued by Sky for agreeing such a deal and giving broadcasting rights to BT as that's where the 50 mill was coming from and it would mean Joshua in the long term made less money not more.

    It would be like Hearn agreeing to Wilder 50/50 demand but meaning he violates the deal he had with Showtime resulting in Wilder being sued for breach of contract. It simply was never a deal that was ever viable and Finkel and Haymon knew that as they never expected Joshua to make such a move as it would have been idiotic.
     
  8. Mickc

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    Im sure all party’s could have been brought together to make the fight if either side so wished like has been done in the past to get big fights made.Did you not see in the link I posted the reason Barry Hearn gave for rejecting the great offer as he put it was that they would have to turn it down due to Joshua’s willingness to remain in the UK ?
     
  9. ellerbe

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    Stfu