Team Wilder Says No Joshua Fight In 2019; No Flat Fee And Rematch Clause Is A Must...

Parker isn't Wilder, and what Parker accepted is irrelevant.

 

60/40 and the fight in the UK is the better side of the deal...is it not?

 

Never understood the rematch clause.

Are terms settled beforehand? Like percentages and ring size and venue and everything else that now gets negotiated? How else can you guarantee the rematch actually happening (without the victor pricing himself out... like Canelo wanting a 90/10 split for a trilogy)?


And if both fighters want a rematch clause, how can the victor gain anything in the rematch by agreeing to future terms before performing? I mean if fighter B blows fighter A out in R1, why is he obligated to fight under those terms?

If it’s just a “I’ll agree to fight you again if I whoop you” type of deal, just do it and negotiate everything in your favor for the rematch.


Agreed about the flat fee though, that’s a joke.

And I didn’t expect the fight in 2018 or even 2019, as I think both are scared of losing their 0’s. I do think Joshua is more scared of Wilder (who took the best of 94-year-old-but-still-dangerous Luis Ortiz and still blasted him out of there... and has agreed to fight Fury). Joshua beat Wlad (who looked pretty washed since Fury and still dropped AJ) and Povetkin (is that supposed to be impressive still?), two guys I don’t think would beat Wilder (anymore, I’m Wlad’s case).

 

You can't argue the American price being more expensive as not being a fair comparison without taking into account that the population of America is far far bigger.

300k ppv's in the US at $75 may generate more revenue but with the population in America being 5x bigger means 300k PPV Buys would be failure.

 

It helps to set a benchmark. Parker held 1 world title and AJ held 2. Now wilder holds 1 and AJ holds 3. So obviously wilder can't expect as much, but at least it would give a ballpark figure.

 

This is cute but he really doesn't. AJ is making so much money fighting any and everyone. I want him to fight Wilder but your statement is wrong and completely misleading.

 

This isn't an equal negotiaton? One person has more belts and brings more more to the table. The A-side invariably insists on a rematch clause that isn't reciprocated.

If you disagree with that in all instances all well and good. If you disagree with that just here, STFU and go back to Classic you moron.

 

I'd like to see 55-35 with the remaining 10 to the winner.....

Would like to see why people disagree also.

 

Which is all great except you haven't compared AJ with Wilder at all. Because if you did, you would note one makes clearly more than the other......

 

The reason AJ needs to fight Wilder is to prove he's the best.

Two of my three favourite memories as a boxing fan were when Kostya Tszyu unified the 140lb championship & when Vic Darchinyan (in my avatar) unified the 115lb championship.

Standing on top of the world with all the belts is the ultimate achievement in the sport. It doesn't get any better than that - except perhaps in the heavyweight division where the historically significant lineal championship is also on offer (yes, it's on offer in other divisions but doesn't carry the same prestige).

AJ stands on the precipice of achieving all that but his fans are focused on saying he's the A-side & doesn't need to fight Wilder.

If he doesn't need to fight Wilder, he's depriving himself of the ultimate accolade the sport has to offer. He's depriving his fans of sharing that achievement with him.

For the record, both Kostya & Vic were B-sides when they fought Zab & Mijares respectively.

Maybe AJ should take the Dillian Whyte rematch after all...

 

Im a no one stan, I just like to watch the best in the division try to knock off the top dog. If Wilder doesnt want to try to fight the top dog or fight anyone in the division, im not worried in the slightest, thats been the story of his whole career.

 

Right...which is why I said AJ was clearly the A side and deserved the larger split and the fight to be in the UK, so I'm confused as to what you're getting at?

 

Doesnt any of this apply to Wilder?

 

You are a stan, it's there in your post history for the world to see, it's not just my opinion. There's really nothing wrong with that though, we are all fans and support our "guys", I have no issue with that. My point is that the insecurity is obvious to anyone with any real understanding of the human condition. Maybe it's associated with an expectation of losing, or things being "too good to be true", anticipation of the worst case scenario based on recent history, I'm not British so I don't know. I know fear when I see it though, and below all this tough talk and false bravado it's obvious that many here fear the inevitable and are on board with avoiding it as long as possible.

 

Yeah of course it does...which is why he's pushed the hardest for the fight to be made?