Technical flaws you've noticed in fighters...

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Dubstep, Jan 21, 2010.


  1. Dubstep

    Dubstep Active Member Full Member

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    I was just having a think about Freddie Roach's comments about Ricky Hatton dropping his right hand when he's about to throw and was wondering if any of you lot have noticed anything about anyone?

    Obviously, Carl Froch doesn't hold his hands up etc. I'm thinking of something you're quite proud of and makes you think you could definitely be a coach.

    Kell Brook is the one I've spotted. The thing for me is that his guard is at his neck and his hands are tight together. I was told by Michael Sprott (go to the same gym) that the punch that hurt him the most was against one of the German prospects he beat a couple of years back. Apparently, he dropped his hands, a punch went into his guard, into his neck and he could barely breath for about a minute and had to hold on.
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    That's not the only other suspect technique in Kell Brook's style. When he throws his right hand he has a tendency to pull his head up in the air and leave his chin out.
     
  3. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    David Price cocks his left arm and leaves it low which means he cannot control range nor get maximum power on his jab and fails to triple it because he seems lazy with it.
     
  4. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I posted on here and pulled Tyson Fury up for leaning back and pawing when he thinks he's going to get hit a couple of weeks before Barry Mac mentioned the same thing on the TV.

    I'm not sure whether he'd read my post or managed to spot the flaw for himself.....;O)
     
  5. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Well i posted this video in the training area but i don't think many people will see it and appreciate it there so i will throw it into this thread.
    It highlights a flaw of De La Hoya..it's a harsh one but a very good point. 4:14 you will see it.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81non05aKX4[/ame]
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Cool video.

    The only slight fault in his logic is the idea that the type of defence Charley Burley is implementing is less dependent on reactions. Burley had the talent to see punches early and move his head/shoulder accordingly. That's a great defence but it requires a higher talent threshhold to perfect. Oscar tried a more ambitious type of defence under Mayweather Sr and sucked at it.

    So really the defence De La Hoya utilizes is the type of defence Joe Bloggs should learn first out in the gym as its simple and effective.
     
  7. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Yeah your spot on. In the ring you have to feel natural at what your doing especially in a sport where other man is trying knock you out. Some people feel comfortable taking shots on the gloves...some like to roll with shots. It depends a lot on upperbody and mentally your confidence. I do like the way Burley pivots with left foot very smart move.
     
  8. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    James DeGale stands still after throwing a combination.
     
  9. GladiatoR

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    It might just be me, but has anyone else noticed Khan doesn't have a good chin?
     
  10. Mazallan

    Mazallan ESB yes man Full Member

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    Groves is ginger.
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    De La Hoya wasn't the same fighter under Mayweather Sr.

    His footwork deteriorated, the head movement disappeared..... not sure why he stuck with him for so long.
     
  12. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    think that was mo to do with him ageing and moved up in weight. you gotta remember dlh was in some wars hes got one of the best records in history.
     
  13. Lee Mc

    Lee Mc Boxing Addict banned

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    Oscar De La Hoya spent far too long with trainers who weren't suited to his natural style. He was always working with whatever trainer was in vouge and would have been a much more successful fighter if, like Manny with Roach for example, he had just stuck to a guy who complimented his style.
     
  14. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    How many did he have?

    Beristain
    Roach
    Mayweather
    Steward
    Clancy

    Any more......
     
  15. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Yep - First thing that came to my head when I saw this thread was...

    "Tyson Fury winces, turns his head and paws a shot out there when he believes he's about to be hit in the face"

    DeGale sometimes loads up big shots with his left when there's no need to do it at all. He isn't a massive puncher and his punches are sometimes a little slow off the mark coz he wants to be stopping people. Should get back to boxing IMO

    Hatton, punches his gloves together infront of his chest half a second before he leaps into a left hook.

    Calzaghe avoided prime fighters :rofl

    Murray for some reason loves to be punched in the face :huh