Technical Thread : You're Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. How do you fight Sergio Martinez?

Keep coming forward and hopefully he gets tired,it's no secret that's their strategy.

 

Chase Martinez get him on the ropes land body shots uppercuts hit him everywhere bust his ass up until he quits or gets ktfo.

 

His has Roach as a trainer, the only thing he'll tell JCC Jr, is "Go Get Em' Champ"

 

Excellent - love these threads. . . Haha I'm going to wait until I'm more lucid of mind to give my breakdown. . . Because it will be VERY technical, and I'm almost positive the fight will play out the way I will lay it down.

 

I would like Chavez to mix it and start off from distance with the jab and dropping the occasional right hand.
We all know though that Chavez rarely fights in that guaging distance type of mode.

Having said that, it might not be a bad idea at all for Chavez just to take it to Martinez up close in a seek and destroy type of mode.

Its a similar type a matchup scenario for Chavez that it was when Paul Williams fought Martinez.
Williams fought well against Martinez that first fight.

The difference here that may tip the scales in favor of Chavez Jr. will be he's going to outweight Martinez by plenty. A disparity that Williams did'nt have over him.
That and Chavez digs to the body much better than does Williams, which may very well be the difference in taking apart Martinez.

Yeah Chavez has the size and reach so you would think he'd use it against Martinez, but then again as I've stated, it may not be a bad idea to just chuck it and do it the custumary Chavez Sr. way with the mindset to punish the body so Martinez' head will be there for the taking late!

Run Sergio run! Martinez just may have to do that to get away from Chavez' hooks to the body! :bbb

 

I'll say it again, this fight will be the last we see of Martinez in the ring. . . He'll drop off the face of the earth. . . Four years later, HBO will assemble a camera crew, and a team to do a documentary. . . They will track him down to a small, desolate farm in Argentina.

There they will find a despondent Martinez in a semi-catatonic state gradually rocking back and forth in a rocking chair on his patio, not aware of anything going on around him . . . He will be under the care of a caretaker, and his mom. . .

The caretaker will explain that all Sergio does all day is sit in his rocking chair, rocking back and forth. . . Staring aimlessly off in the distance, every now and then muttering "Chavez. . . Chavez. . . "

 

Set up ur jab, throw ur right hand straight down the pipe, dig to the body and when in close throw uppercuts and pray

 

Keep dreaming Khan!

I think you'll find it that Martinez is not that weak mentally!

Martinez got knocked out by Margarito some time ago. Martinez could have easily taken the route of the mentally weak like Cintron and Cotoo and blamed that KO loss on plaster, but instead Martinez was quoted as saying, "Margarito did'nt have plaster in his wraps against me, he beat me fair and square and I have no excuses for that fight other than I'm a better fighter today! "
Those are the words and comportment of a true champion!:deal

 

This.! :deal

 

Chavez is very good at going for the body from distance.One thing's for sure,he'll have to disrupt Sergio's footwork and jabbing to the body is one of the best ways I can think of to throw him off and close the distance.
However Martinez won't be an easy target like Lee was,so I think throwing in a few lead rights is essential,because Sergio can slip and counter the jab very well.
Chavez hasn't been in with a counterpuncher of SM's calibre so combinations are an absolute must.Every jab must have either a follow up double or preferably a right hook or cross to follow.Sergio will eat up single punches all night.
He'll have to make the first few rounds count,and really give Sergio something to think about.Martinez is often happy to use the first few stanzas to find his rythym,and I doubt this will be different.If Chavez doesn't make them count,Sergio will really fancy his chances of punishing him.
Thoughtful combinations while always being mindful of defending the counters is what's needed.He did move up and downstairs well against Lee,but this would be like judging how you're going to fight Marquez going by your tactics against Katsidis.

 

Why do I have a feeling the ring is going to be small as hell? Martinez needs to stick and move. Tie up whenever Chavez gets in close (don't wrestle because it'll wear him out) and keep his straight left and right jab in his face all night.

I'm not sure Martinez can hurt Chavez either, so maybe some body work early to maybe break him down a little bit since Chavez seems to come on late as well as Martinez.

 

It's going to be small because that favors Chavez :yep

As for what Chavez should do, the plan is simple; advance forward throwing jabs and right hands down the middle to take advantage of Martinez's hands low defense (while keeping up a high guard and some head movement to try and throw off the right jabs and straight lefts coming at him) and then lean on Martinez on the ropes throwing short hooks and uppercuts to slowly grind him down and tire him out for a late TKO or decision win.

I like both guys, but I think this fight favors Chavez. Martinez is older and maybe slower now, and Chavez is huge, strong, blessed with a great chin and stamina, and can cut off the ring. This is a bad matchup for Martinez because of the size/strength differential more than the styles.

 

Yes, so he basically verified what we already knew: Margarito is his PAPÍ!

And CHavez Jr. is about to be his other PAPÍ

 

With my loaded gloves and special roid cocktail.