"Technique"

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by reznick, May 11, 2017.


  1. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When FMJ fought Hatton, he was 30 years old and was fighting every 6-7 months. If FMJ had been in the ring with most of the better 47s, 54s, and 60s last night, he'd be 49-1 today. If current FMJ had been in the ring Friday (FOX Sports,I bring this up because I had just watched the fight) night with Sergiy Derevyanchenko, who does use text book technique, I'd fear for Floyd's health. FMJ is not what he was, even with diminished speed and reflexes and giving up a lot of size Saturday night he still won easily because his opponent was not a good boxer. It just shows how much technique means that a 40 year old, inactive, and diminished welterweight was able to dominate a light heavyweight who does not have good technique.
     
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    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep. And not a surprising one who has always been about taking as little risk as possible.

    He probably felt that Conor had good timing and was only dangerous with one-punch counters, so he decided to dog him for a couple of rounds until he started to tire and only let his own hands really go when it was safer to do so.

    The things that surprised me slightly was 1 that Floyd took three feeling out rounds instead of one or two, 2 that Conor's timing was so good and 3 that Conor's offense and punching technique was so bad.
     
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    So basically Connor did so much better than expected, that technique purists are digging for real disadvantages Floyd had going into this fight.
    As if being 40 trumps the issue of never having boxed professionally your life, and having to go against an elite fighter who never lost.


    Reminds of Pauli going from "Connor would be a joke", to "Well, he doesn't have Oh my God power..."
     
  5. Bokaj

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    Ok, I counted to three in that clip (the uppercut counter was one punch, not a combo since he was unable to put any leverage into the attempt of a follow up hook) and one punch in total landed (a body shot) in them.
     
  6. reznick

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    According to Wladmir Klitschko, Connor McGreggor displayed good boxing skills.

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  7. reznick

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    Watch the whole fight again. This is what Connors attacks looked like throughout.
    Very quick light punch combos.
    Very ineffective at reaching Floyd (A defensive marvel).
     
  8. Bokaj

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    I actuality thought he probably would last the distance, so I can't say he did better than I expected.
     
  9. Bokaj

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    No, they were mostly ineffectual arm punches. Helped him rack up good punch stats numbers (landing four slaps to the ribs or to the back of the head in a clinch is relatively easy, but also has little effect), but didn't help him mark Floyd's face in the slightest or even make him breathe hard.
     
  10. Bokaj

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    Seriously, @reznick, did you see anything in Conor's performance to make you believe Golovkin wouldn't walk right through him?
     
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    I said they were ineffective.
    But a punch is a punch.

    For the second half of his career, Floyds punches weren't intended to hurt.
    It was one of the major criticism surrounding his career.
    Criticizing Connor for doing the same thing against Floyd himself reeks of a double standard.
     
  12. reznick

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    Hell no.
    GGG would murder him.
     
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  13. Bokaj

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    Floyd's punches alway kept his opponent honest. Even Canelo, whom I've never seen hurt, showed respect for them. It might have happened, but I can't remember seeing anyone just walking through Floyd's punches. And that in turn helped Floyd avoiding to get hit himself.
     
  14. Bokaj

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    So against the best boxer his own size, a man who has murderous leverage and technique in his punching, we agree he would be badly outmatched.
     
  15. reznick

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    Oh yeah.
    But is that saying much to Connors detriment?

    You think Connor would do better or worse than Wade?
     
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