"Technique"

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by reznick, May 11, 2017.


  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would agree that Floyd isn't the best measuring stick (even though we saw some of those tendencies also in the brief Malignaggi footage) . Too bad we'll probably never see Conor in boxing again, because he is clearly a great talent.
     
  2. mcvey

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    He didn't "outjab" Mayweather because Mayweather rarely employed his jab ,there was no "battle of the jabs" .Floyd concentrated on using a high guard and moved forward constantly making McGregor expend energy in effect ,after the first 3 rounds he gradually walked him down ,.Which was his fight plan.How can anyone get things so wrong ,so many times!
    Its almost like you're having wilfully induced hallucinations!
     
  3. mcvey

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    He didn't "outjab" Mayweather because Mayweather rarely employed his jab ,there was no "battle of the jabs" .Floyd concentrated on using a high guard and moved forward constantly making McGregor expend energy in effect ,after the first 3 rounds he gradually walked him down ,.Which was his fight plan.How can anyone get things so wrong ,so many times!
    Its almost like you're having wilfully induced hallucinations!
    McGregor accquited himself with credit and honour he did his best and his best was better than I thought it could ever be, but he was never winning this fight. The guy tried to the extent of his talent and put on a bit of a show for which he was more than handsomely rewarded, for Floyd it was an obscenely lucrative cake walk.
    I watched it in You Tube Sunday morning for nothing, no way would I pay to see that.
    Chris Eubank is a deluded, preening, egotistical joke!
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You lack the ability to interpret and understand what you are actually watching.
    There was no jabbing contest for either man to win! Floyd walked him down behind a high guard , using his straight right hand lead to soften him up, he rarely threw jabs!
    Hatton fought a prime 30 years old Mayweather and had his moments, few though they may have been.Floyd had gone 12 rds with DelaHoya a few months previously he was sharp! Hatton was forcing the fight and in Floyd's face all night, committing to his punches ,therefore he was always in harms way.Apart from a couple of right uppercuts McGregor threw pitty pat jabs whilst on the back foot and he had a 40 years old fighter in with him!

    God knows what you see when you watch boxing matches, but it definitely isn't reality!
     
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  5. Unforgiven

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    There are thousands of active boxers, professional and amateur, around 140 to 160 pounds, who would beat this McGregor guy, so I'm not sure why it's even entered the discussion. He doesn't have a good level of boxing technique. He's 0-1 as a professional and apparently won a Dublin novice boxing amateur competition when he was a boy, but even that hasn't been verified.

    He's hardly a good advert for unorthodox boxing technique in a boxing ring.

    Of course, IN HIS OWN COMBAT SPORT he's an elite operator and behind all this vulgar money-spinning farce we should never lose sight of that.
     
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  6. Unforgiven

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    I'm actually a believer in unorthodox boxing techiques and no "textbook snob" but the whole point is looking at the effects and results of the technique.

    Citing a guy who's 0-1 because he was seen to land punches on an ATG who knew he was in against a ABSOLUTE NO HOPER, is crazy talk.

    I don't even have to watch the fight. There's nothing to see. Mayweather took a fight he literally couldn't lose, he understood that. And he understood that most boxing fans don't quite understand that fully, and MMA fans and the rest are clueless.
    It's cynical as hell.

    Feeding off the same human folly and gullibility that allows people to vote for a guy like Donald Trump thinking he's a champion for the common man !
    It's comic and tragic at the same time.
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    And now we have a young kid solemnly telling us McGregor "won the battle of the jabs"OMG!
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    Tell us how you really feel :lol:
     
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  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Feeds off the same racialized resentments and fantasies too...
     
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  10. reznick

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    Then we must accept that the skill gap between the fighter of our generation, and a complete novice, isn't all that big.

    Either that, or Connor had an impressive showing for a debut novice.
     
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  11. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Anyways I'll side with Wlad, Leonard, and Foreman on this one. I agree far more with their perspective, than most of the arguments presented here.
     
  12. reznick

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    I can almost hear his fans adding him to the top 10 white Middleweights of all time.
     
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  13. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you believe that boxing training is a waste of time?
     
  14. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    No.
     
  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    We are talking about a former ATG who is 40 years old and has not fought in2 years.Mayweather fought to a game plan, press the fight and make the opponent,[ who had never gone over 25 minutes in a ring much of it laying down] expend his energy. MCGregor certainly did better than expected but he was flattered by the tactics Mayweather adopted ,he was never in control of the fight , neither was Floyd ever in danger of losing it.
     
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