Teddy Atlas: “Was Pacquiao was on steroids against Thurman?”

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    This is based on what? Personal beliefs?
    Yes, we all slow down after a certain age, but the decrease isn't rapid.
    https://www.runnersworld.com/health-injuries/a23845530/running-speed-decline-aging/

    Manny has clearly slowed down. But it's not like he was ever going to hit the ceiling and come flying down. He was a freak in his prime so it makes sense that he is still fast and capable.
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why’d he gas so much? If anything peds boost stamina.

    Worst stamina ever, but that’s a given since he’s 40z
     
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  3. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah mate they happen all the time, disclosures are signed before any contract talks commence otherwise they would be pointless like you said any fighter that knocks back a contract could then speak about it.

    Do I have a direct source for boxing no, but I have a mate (well I say mate he was a work colleague) that is a football agent and these disclosures are signed all the time prior to meetings with football players. They do happen in all sports bud.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Since when are 40 year olds basically cripples? Manny is a lifetime athlete who has always been in great shape. Yes, there has been a lot of wear and tear, but there has also been an enormous amount of maintenance.

    Just look at ultra marathon runners. The majority are in their 40s or close to it, and they are excelling in physical fitness.
    There is an enormous amount of pro and amateur athletes in their 40s, who are absolute beasts.

    It takes dedication and maintenance.
     
  5. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Too ridiculously baseless.
     
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  6. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    Ahh, Victor Conte: the man who is presenting himself as poacher-turned-gamekeeper. :confused:
     
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  7. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you asking if I have concrete evidence of Manny juicing then no I dont obv.

    But I did study Physiology at Uni and have a basic to decent understanding of what happens to the body. Im not here to educate you bud do that in your own time like I did sorry.

    Do runners maintain that stamina and speed after putting on muscle? Do runners wrists grow in size? Do any humans that have not got a growth condition?

    Im not picking on Manny, not at all. IMO he will not be the first superstar and certainly not the last in boxing to be involved in PEDS.

    Listen in terms of skill, motivation, dedication and hunger I respect the hell outta Manny guys a true legend. Too many red flags for me to ignore, but the dude is 40 FFS, still a bloody boss !
     
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  8. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Rigo was at least 62 years old when he fought Donaire.
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    The explosiveness and athleticism that anybody has fades with age.

    Name me one fighter over the age of 35 let alone age of 40 who could maintain a high workrate?

    Pac was 24 when he threw 10,000 punches against Barrera.

    Frazier was 27 when he bobbed and weaved and pressured Ali like a machine.

    Pryor was 27 when he destroyed Arguello.

    Margarito was 30 when he refused to get tired against Cotto.
     
  10. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Learn how to spell then I will reply. You write the way you talk verbally. I don't have time for an imbecile :flipa:
    For now you are on my CRAP list !
     
  11. juhave

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    I tell you a secret. Both guys were juiced in that fight. It would be very naive to think otherwise.
     
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  12. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow hope that is just a hater hating. Because if its true pac stock drops below margarito level.
     
  13. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it was always you that replied to me .... oh dear ?!?! the irony in saying your not gonna reply to me ..... whilst replying to me.

    Please dont ignore me bro' dont think I could handle all that lack of sleep.
     
  14. BoyBato

    BoyBato Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Goodness. Everyone is just throwing ped accusations at each other. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
     
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  15. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny looked to be declining 10 years ago. Its been a slow decline somehow.

    Last time he was prime was Cotto imo.
     
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