Teddy Atlas Attacks Pacquiao again after big win!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Karceno, Nov 14, 2010.


  1. bambamz

    bambamz Active Member Full Member

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    the way atlast spoke here, really does tell the casual boxing fans that manny outright didnt want to get tested...

    thats just wrong
     
  2. johnnydrama

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    As a man.....I take a man's word at face value unless they give me any reason NOT to believe them. That goes for anyone. PAC's own words and PAC's own actions prove to me that he's willing and able to go beyond the half way mark and do what he says.

    Koncz has ****ed up in the past stating inaccurate information and so has bob and Roach....

    On the flip side Floyd, Rog, Sr and Leonard all have done the same in ****ing up on important information regarding this potential fight.

    Koncz job is not on the line for saying 7 days.....it's not his job to handle the actual particualars in the fight agreement. He's like a personal assistant to PAC....getting his food, laundry....ect. He's not the best source to begin with.

    Even when Koncz said 7 days he didn't sound confident on 24/7. It won't be the last time Koncz ****s up.
     
  3. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know if Atlas is ignorant about the drug testing situation or if he's purposely lying.
     
  4. johnnydrama

    johnnydrama Guest

    Floyd had no other choice to adhere to his own creation of OSDT.:lol: He couldn't go on and fight someone else like Shane who had been caught doping and not impose the tests he used that killed the fight with PAC.

    Floyd isn't completely ******ed.....he knew had he done that his auroa would be shattered and his ego wouldn't allow that.

    PAC is known to be like Floyd and Nard...extremely clean, hard working and a professional at the highest level. They are as clean as fresh laundry and they rarely even take tylenol let alone roids.

    Floyd created the accusations to paint this picture that PAC was a cheat so he could find a way out of the fight and he did just that.

    PAC didn't need to do what Floyd wanted him to do especially since Floyd himself wouldn't agree to the fight after PAC rolled over and accepted all the BULL**** demands.

    Plus...the example Floyd set is one he is regretting by the day.
     
  5. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Atlas is just butthurt he wont be invited to Pacs Lake Tahoe concert. :lol:

    Just a very bitter man whos a failure in boxing, as a trainer and a horrendous boxing analyst.
     
  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    So what exactly did Freddy say that "attacking" anyone? He gave a pretty simple and objective response to a direct question...they asked him "What will it take to make this fight happen?", he replied Manny taking USADA drug tests...is this a secret?
     
  7. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fair enough, man. It's obvious you fully trust that Pac's statements are 100% true. I would not bet my house on that, man. But, if Koncz is a mere errand boy, why trust him to convey details about matters millions of dollars above his pay grade? They could've edited that part out of the 24/7, if it was false. But, they left it in...because, it was more than likely, 100% ACCURATE. Bob Arum was asked about the testing agreement numerous times. And EVERY TIME his answer was that he "could not get into details." It's obvious, he knew, but, was skirting the question, at that time. So, Koncz is sent in to clean up the matter. Who is handling negotiations, if not Arum, and Koncz assisting him? Buboy? Freddie? Of course not. Koncz is Manny's ADVISOR not just his errand boy. Hence, he is, more than likely, privy to details of fight terms, as much as Arum is.
     
  8. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    No man it's not, the bottom line is that the fight hasn't happened because he doesn't want to be tested, what was he wrong about? I'm not trying to be a dick, but that is the bottom line, and to this point the "casual boxing fan" has been told that the fight isn't happening because "Floyd is a coward", how is this anymore "right"? The bottom line is when Manny agrees to the testing, with no limitations and BS cut offs etc, the fight will happen.
     
  9. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    I wish people would stop calling it Olympic style testing. It IS NOT Olympic style testing. It is unlimited blood testing from a specified start date to a specified stop date. An Olympic style testing test you year round and the samples collected are kept and can be tested in the future. And as long as your competing the random year long testing is in place.

    So please will people shut up about this being Olympic style. This is random blood testing leading up to the fight.
     
  10. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why do any of you Pac fans feel like your under attack? Relax and calm down. Manny doesn't want to take the test. How is that blasphemy? He's fought in a state where drug testing isn't required his last 2 fights. Teddy is just telling it like it is.
     
  11. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Please provide the source that shows manny agreeing to "testing up until the day of"

    dont beat around the bush..just provide it than..

    note: I was told Michael Marley interview doesn't count because he is "bias" towards Pac..

    so please post the source..I would like to see it...
     
  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    when was the last time Manny did. Even Max suck up Kellerho, said Manny hasn't fought a prime fighter since Marquez or anybody with good defense
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao had the stage yesterday to callout Mayweather and say, "lets do the random tests, no cutoff dates all the way to the fight, you're next Floyd, stop running and come and get this come and get this."



    ......but instead we heard, "If Floyd does'nt want it, I'm OK with it. I'm happy with my career."

    .....sounds to me alot like Pacquiao has not agreed to the full random testing and that was coaberated from a Pac team member who stuck his foot in his mouth by saying Pac had only agreed to a 7 day window.



    I guarantee that if Pacquiao would publicly call out Mayweather and state what I previously wrote, the fight would happen whether Mayweather was running scared or not......

    .....but I think what is happening here is that Pacquiao himself is leary of Mayweather actually accepting the fight.
     
  14. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    They ask Manny if the fight will get made and he says well if it happens it happens, it is a good fight for the fans.
    They ask Floyd and he says if he agrees to the test then the fight is made
    Who is the one that sounds like they're trying to get the fight made
     
  15. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Considering Atlas is wrong 75% of the time I can't listen to him anymore. I respect him but not with his opinions on future matchups. Being a great trainer does not make you a good psyhic.