Teddy Atlas bringing up Wladimir out of absolutely nowhere tonight

I could agree with that, but there are tons of guys that don't even box you could say that about. Haye can't box, plain and simple. He's not yet beaten a top 15 heavyweight and his mouth got him a huge payday.
If Haye decides to make a go at a real career at heavyweight, which I sincerely doubt he will, he'll have to go through a couple or three contenders and prove he deserves another title shot. At this point, his mouth ain't gonna be enough to make people forget that total *****-out performance he delivered.
And if he does make a go of it, and fights some of the other real contenders out there, then my point will be proven, because he'll lose to some, if not all of them.
I really suspect, though, that he's done. He's won't be able to con his way into another enormous payday, and he knows he's not very good. I suspect he'll go the way of Hamed and disappear.

 

Well, there is where we disagree. David Haye has the IT factor going for him. Lots of great athletes can jump high and run fast, lift ridiculous amounts of weight etc. but that means nothing in boxing. Fast hands combined with power and raw athleticism is the key to beating Wlad. David Haye has those qualities in spades. I want to see a rematch as David can test Wlad. Helenius, Arreola and all the rest will be unceremoniously outboxed or knocked out.

 

How can you say he could test Wlad? We just saw those two they stunk out the joint. Who on earth would sincerely want to see that again, except Wlad nuthuggers who like to see him win easily.

Haye would get beat by most of the top 15 HW's right now.

 

I was on the edge of my seat the entire fight. Both men repected each others incredible power. So, obviously you got a defensive fight. Haye at 30 can only get better, albeit with a new trainer. Wlad at 35 can only get older. These two men are both very strong heavyweight fighters and nobody outside of Vitali could compete with them. You really think Chris Arreola or Derek Chisora or whomever could last with these bigboys. No. Haye is getting a lot of flak but he is young and has a great skillset combined with off the charts athleticism. He needs to get a real old-school trainer to take him to the next level. He is a bit of a crybaby but he has the goods to be champ.

 

He doesn't know boxing as much as a few people think. He sucks as trainer, barley learned anything from D'Amato cause he was only around him for a few short spurts of time. He makes people think he spent lots of time with Cus, and that he himself fought a lot as amateur (he had no more than 3 fights, and Cus matched him easy, kids from other upstate New York areas) When he was going to be entered in New York City gloves, he started his back-ache act.

Total phoney

 

Ok. I get it. You're just screwing with me. You had me going. I gotta admit.

 

:good

 

No, it`s OK. Everybody in my family, relatives and friends are much less gracious than you have been in this conversation. To them, I`m just a ****** and David Haye sucks. I see tremendous potential in David Haye. Wlad is not going to lose to those contenders because they don`t have the athleticism to disrupt his underated defence and his two-handed power shots. Anyhow it is time for this ****** to go to bed. Thanks for the replies. It was fun.

 

Why is everyone so suprised when a Jew (Atlas) has some intrinsic problem with an Eastern European fighter(s)? All the Jews in the boxing media treat Slavonic fighter like third class citizens.

Atlas has organized crime connections with the Russian (Jewish) mob and is only training Povetkin because his manager Vlad Huronov is also in ankle deep with those people. As was the case with earstwhile Cruiserweight Sergei Kobozev and look where that got him. Much of the bile spewed from Atlas is because the klitschko's have managed to avoid any connections with Jewish organized crime.

Truth be told this is a huge problem for so many Eastern European fighters. In many cases the only people who can advance/finance their professionl careers are criminals.

 

if it were so easy the klits wouldn't have all the belts. I think adamek will be the first fighter to go down on his sword against a klit since wlad-peter I.

forget povetkin.

 

Having read Atlas's autobiography recently, he seems to favor fighters with the "warrior" mentality, which although Wladimir is a fantastic fighter, he's no Mike Tyson. Maybe that's the reason why, along with Wladimir's success also fueling the hate. On that note, I do believe alot of his autobiography is BS.

 

And that makes Atlas what? All I have ever heard that white trash say is despicable. He always tries to undermine great fighters like Tyson. Teddy's got ***** in him.

 

He doesn't have ***** in him, just a hater is all.

 

Atlas said that his fighter Kirk Johnson would knock Vitali out with one punch, so Vitali knocked Kirk Johnson out in the second round while Larry Merchant said; "The whale has been harpooned." Vitali is a warrior, yet Atlas hates him also.................Atlas hates Pac................

 

Thats why he never boxed, but somehow became a boxing commentator.
When broken down, it becomes:

Atlas never stepped in the ring, only talks **** outside the ring. Eerily this reminds me of a *****.