Teddy Atlas claims Canelo is not a top 10 mexican fighter all time

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Where do you rank Canelo among Mexican fighters all time?

  1. GOAT

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    0.9%
  2. Top 5

    33 vote(s)
    28.7%
  3. Top 10

    50 vote(s)
    43.5%
  4. Outside of top 10

    31 vote(s)
    27.0%
  1. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Do you agree with him here?
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He absolutely isn't top 5.

    JCC, MAB/EM/JMM, Finito and Chava still loom over him. After that it's negotiable.
     
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  3. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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  4. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Miguel Canto is my #2 all time at Fly, I can see him above all but JCC.
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    atlas is brain damaged. just ignore his opinion on anything.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Good shout.
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Canelo has no signature wins

    Loves feasting on washed hobo's.
     
  8. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Olivares and Canto belong firmly in the top 5 along with JCC and Chava, I think.
     
  9. crixus85

    crixus85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Clearly he shouldn’t be considered for numerous reasons : PED’s, stacked decks, ultra careful matchmaking, caneloweight shenanigans, are just some examples.
     
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  10. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a fair top 5. Zarate arguably a more serious challenger to it than Barrera, Morales, JMM or Canelo.
     
  11. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whether Canelo makes your top ten or not, Atlas' comment is part of a continued push-back against unearned praise i.e. Canelo is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time. The more time passes the more history will sneer at such hyperbole. Canelo's dominance is in direction proportion to quality of opposition. It is observable in film and official results.

    If we pardon a forty year old Golovkin - and agree that his best opponents are a mid-thirties Gennady, Mayweather, Bivol, and Lara - then we may uncontroversially state he's failed to post a clear victory over any one of them.

    Now his ability to hang at the world level, at different weight classes, over such a stretch is impressive. It is a testament to a talented, dedicated profressional. Nothing more, nothing less. And there's the fine line between the excellent and the truly special. Canelo's never wowed me like El Púas, Mr Pulmones, El Gran Campeon or El Terrible, and my eyes weren't deceiving me.

    Tell me about being a champion in numerous divisions and I'll spam you with examples.
     
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  12. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's definitely top 10 and an argument could be made for top 5.
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Jeez! Let Teddy speak his truth. He's gonna speak it anyway and none of his detractors possess the minerals to try and stop him or are equipped with what it takes to do so if they do :facepalm:
     
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  14. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Canelo is not a top 10 Mexican fighter. I wouldn't say that he is getting old but I would say that he is getting disinterested- he has been fighting his whole life, has accomplished many things, and has found many ways outside of boxing to make money.
     
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  15. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Canelo is way greater than Finito. Juan Francisco Estrada is probably greater than Canelo, though.
     
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