Teddy Atlas fired from ESPN commentating for telling the truth! Too much pressure

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The only person who ever called Teddy Atlas a feared street fighter was Teddy Atlas himself in his own book.

    Teddy Atlas was about as dangerous and respected a streetfighter as Jay Bright was.

    Dangerous streetfighters don't pull out guns when they lose their temper at 13-year-olds (which Atlas admitted he did when he confronted a 13-YEAR-OLD Mike Tyson). Respected street fighters drop kids like Tyson with a body shot (like Bobby Stewart did).
    Respected street fighters don't pull out guns and look to MURDER someone when they get fired (like he admitted he did when Donnie Lalonde changed trainers.)

    Teddy Atlas was the very wealthy son of a wealthy physician who started his own hospital. People think Teddy was some great fighter because his face is so jacked up. Frankly, I think he's borderline ******ed, and people confuse his "slowness" with being kinda punchy. He didn't come across as so loopy when he was younger and training guys like Simon Brown. He just seemed like he wasn't very bright. He failed in school. He hung out with tough guys in the streets, and got his face broken, and then went home at night to his dad's mansion until his dad didn't want to have anything to do with him anymore.

    He fell into boxing. He was given training assignments but couldn't hold onto a boxer. Everyone got tired of him. THere are a lot of bad trainers in boxing. Atlas was one of them. He made a fool of himself the night Moorer beat Holyfield, and then again when Moorer fought Bean, (could Atlas ever really motivate anyone?).

    Then he got the first full-time job in his life when ESPN hired him. And now he's got people tuning out like Moorer and Briggs used to tune him out because his act has gotten old.

    Like most goofballs, he's tolerable in small doses. But he's about as fake as his shtick has gotten. He's got about 10 boxing stories. And he recycles them like mad.

    We all have heard them a thousand times. "Silent contracts." "Hero and the Coward." "Corrupt judging." "National commission."
     
  2. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Teddy didn't stick to the script. He told the truth, and either ESPN or Top Rank thought that would hurt their brand. He criticized matches, judges, fighters, and fellow commentators. You don't get away with that in corporate America. That's why whatever happens, however lousy the matchmaking, boring the fights, lackluster the performances, or shitty the play by plays, the HBO crew is always sucking each other's dicks and kissing the house fighter's ass.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Commentators in all sports criticize matchups and criticize officials. Atlas went a step further. Fixing a national sporting event is a crime. Every time he called a fight recently, he didn't agree with the scoring (and he's not always right, either) then he was accusing people of committing a crime. He offered no proof other than he didn't agree with the verdict.

    I can understand why he never understood that most organizations have processes for hiring and firing people, because he never had a job for most of his adult life. And when he was fired, he wanted to take his gun and kill the person.
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    Again, I don't think he was ever the brightest bulb. He got away with a lot for a long time because people thought he was "a character."
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Yes, he's an idiot. Yes, he's too theatrical. Yes, he's a big mouth. Yes, he won't be missed any more than that slovenly drunk Larry Merchant. But that's not why he got fired. He got fired because **** was ****ed up and he was the only person who would cop to it. They are firing him for the only redeeming personality trait he has instead of for being lousy at his job and a **** head for decades. How the **** does Stephen A. Smith get to stick around? The powers that be don't care about incompetence as long as you toe the line.

    And by the way, I was pissed when he brought Tim Bradley on board as a commentator. The dude has no stage presence and is straight boring. I don't know about this new Mark Kriegel guy. I either haven't listened to him, or watched the fights he's called so I don't have an opinion. But I just want a good commentary team in there that knows boxing and broadcasting. Give me Steve Kim and Ray Mancini and shove all the rest of these *******s into a dark hole somewhere.
     
  5. Serge

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    'Capo di tutti i capi or capo dei capi, often referred to as the Godfather in English, is Italian for "boss of all bosses" or "boss of the bosses" (literally "head of all heads" or "head of the heads"). It is a phrase used mainly by the media, public and the law enforcement community to indicate a supremely powerful crime boss in the Sicilian or American Mafia who holds great influence over the whole organization.'

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  6. Dubblechin

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    Good Lord. Teddy Atlas was a "feared streetfighter" because he yelled at George Foreman and gave a slow motion push at his shoulder while he was sitting down?

    Christ.

    Teddy Atlas looks like a burned out pro fighter who took too many punches.

    THE REALITY is he's the half-wit son of a wealthy doctor.

    People see Teddy's droopy lids and his open-mouth stare and the scar on his face at a boxing match and they treat him like an old fighter like Holyfield or Toney who took too many shots.

    BUT Atlas didn't box as a pro.

    Hell, Atlas had no amateur experience to speak of.

    He's not punchy. He's slow.

    Brian Kenny boxed briefly as an amateur (like Atlas) and Brian Kenny lived at Cus D'Amato's house, too, for a time (like Atlas).

    But Brian Kenney doesn't look like a punchy old boxer because he isn't. And Atlas isn't either, but he looks like one. Because he's slow.

    Slow people often act like tough guys. And people humor them. That's what George was doing.

    This is Foreman-Atlas in a nutshell.

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  7. Willie Maeket

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    If he is soooo tough why did he pull a gun on a teenager? Guys like him always need a gun for those young teenage urban males. Suddenly they can't remember how to throw a punch when they know they are gonna get their narrow asses kicked.

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  8. Serge

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    I've explained this to one of the ''Teddy's not a gangsta'' crew before so I'll just re-post what I wrote to them.

    A 15 year old Tyson>>>> 99% of 26 year old men in a physical confrontation.

    Mike crossed a line and Teddy pulled rank and taught him a valuable lesson: That there are consequences for your actions and that he would pay for them dearly if he ever stepped over that line again. Teddy could've just given him a severe beating but putting a gun to his head and threatening to blow his brains out was a much more effective method to get through to him IMO. He made him stare over the edge of the abyss and contemplate his own mortality. It was a lesson that Mike badly needed to learn back then. He did him a huge favour and society too.

    Personally I think Teddy should've pulled the trigger. Not when he had it aimed at his head or anything - that would've been an overreaction on his part IMO - but rather he should've just moved the barrel to the side a couple of inches or so and let a round go to really ram the message home that he wasn't playing. Or maybe he should've just given him a little superficial wound to let him know he meant business. Like blowing a piece of his earlobe off or something.

    Perhaps Mike's life wouldn't have turned out the way it did had Teddy done so. Who knows perhaps he would'n't have self-destructed at an early age and thrown his career down the pan, or been sent to the pen for violating the delectable Miss Washington's ass or be the bi-polar manic depressive of today who can't function like a normal human being without the aid of a whole host of various antidepressants, mood stabilizers and weekly visits to his shrink.
     
  9. Dubblechin

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    After Teddy Atlas was tossed, Mike Tyson became the youngest heavyweight champion in the world and made a half a billion dollars.

    You think Tyson would've been better off if Atlas shot him? What?

    Tyson came from nothing. He was orphaned. He was raised by his sister who died at like age 24 from obesity.

    Atlas, on the other hand, was the son of a millionaire doctor who started his own hospital. Atlas had a mother and father. He wasn't an orphan, like Tyson. Atlas grew up in luxury and ended up in jail himself. Ended up getting carved up by some other loser. Ended up getting fired from his first steady job for pulling a gun on a teenager.

    Atlas would've been better off if he listened to his millionaire dad, stayed in school, got a degree ... and quit acting like a tough guy which he never was.

    Atlas, to this day, isn't as successful as his own father was.

    Who in their right mind thinks Tyson would've been better off if as a teenager, Atlas had shot him? You gotta be high.

    Tyson's still better off today than most of the people he grew up with.

    On the other hand, most kids whose dads started hospitals are better off than Teddy Atlas.

    Teddy Atlas is the "loser" in his family. That's how high up he started life.
     
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  10. Serge

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    I think a little flesh wound to his earlobe would've done wonders for Mike. Like I said, killing him would've IMO been an overreaction on Teddy's part.
     
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  11. FrankinDallas

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    Wow great interview..Mike really puts Teddy in his place. Lol that young interviewer looks scared shiteless!
     
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  12. CST80

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    Horn won fairly, Ogawa won fairly.

    Teddy is a bloviating mental patient that lacks objectivity. He's fun in small doses, but he's too embarrassing and too biased to be calling matches the caliber of Loma-Rigo. I'm glad he was demoted, his call of the Pacquiao match was absolutely deplorable, and clearly affected your judgment, and everyone else's evidently. He sees only what he wants to sees and drives the point home like an obsessive compulsive basket case and biases the viewers badly. He's not and never will be ready for prime time.

    It's a pity HBO have taken the CNN Push Biased Agenda 24/7 approach instead of objective as well. Lampley and Kellerman have always been biased like the MSM, yet I could still enjoy their commentary, but lately they're over the line and have turned into a flat out joke. Something is wrong when Andre Ward is the only guy that seems somewhat fair and balanced and is making sense.:lol:
     
  13. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Fox News all the way, bro.:b1:
     
  14. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Why bring me into it ?? Actually I do agree with most of what Farm said.
    Noxing is corrupt. Bob Bennett & the NSAC are corrupt IMHO. Bennett claims Adelaide Byrd is one of the best judges after a card 120 108 ??? She must be
    corrupt ot totally incompetant to come up with that one. Plus he granted Floyd a TUE for blatantly breaking the NSAC rules THREE WEEKS AFTER the event ovvurred
    You ought to real all Farm's post you just might learn something
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Teddy has rightly been calling the corruption for years