Teddy Atlas "Gennady Golovkin Is Overrated & Slipping; Canelo Might Win Easy"

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It really doesn't make any sense, which just goes to show how much of a stretch it is to argue that G won the first fight by that kind of a margin. This is group think at its finest. I mean, Teddy Atlas stated he had the first fight 118-110 for Golovkin, and now he's saying that Canelo might win easy and Golovkin is overrated? This is pure comedy. Teddy was the one who massively overrated Golovkin more than anyone by stating he won the fight 10 rounds to 2 !

    I guess after stating he had it 118-110 for Golovkin, he later stated he had it 117-111? In any event, it doesn't make any sense to have that score then to drastically do a 180 several months later by saying Canelo might win easy.

    Someone who might win a rematch "easy" vs a guy that's massively overrated doesn't lose by that kind of a margin. To make that kind of a prediction, you would have had to see something in the first fight that would lead you make that prediction for the rematch. And yet, for whatever reason, when they saw Canelo landing those bombs in the first fight, and outboxing Golovkin round after round, they made the decision in their mind not to give Canelo rounds when they could have.

    The difference is Byrd gave Canelo all those rounds, but yet the same reasons that Byrd gave Canelo those rounds pundits like Atlas are now using those same observations to predict Canelo could win easy, which is precisely how Byrd scored it to which they crucified her for lol.
     
  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wouldn’t be the first time would it,have you never wondered why Canelo always has these ridiculous cards?probly not eh?
     
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  3. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hah..says the fool of nature...you 'd argue with a mirror ..what berk
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think this phenomena comes down to most pundits having a preconcieved notion going into the first fight of who was going to win (Golovkin) and being surprised by how well Canelo was doing, but not wanting to admit that their prediction of Golovkin winning was wrong, so they made sure to find at least 7 or 8 rounds to give to Golovkin.

    A lot of times, when you go into something with a mindset of what you think is going to happen, it takes a while to digest what actually happened, especially when it doesn't just jump right out at you, like a knockdown, or something.
     
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  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    So you really think Oscar bought off ONE judge?
     
  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Would you like to engage in a real debate or are you going to continue wasting my time?
     
  7. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    36 is old for a pressure fighter.

    As a generalisation, that style ages first and ages quickest. Yes, of course there are exeptions, but generally few pressure fighters remain near peak beyond 33-34yrs old and are usually shot by their mid 30's.
     
  8. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Fortunately for GGG he's mostly fought C and D level opponents.
     
  9. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you this dumb? You asked a question I just answered you.
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right in time for the Canelo fight then. I think referring to Triple G just as a typical pressure fighter is selling him short of what he actually is. I think it's just that he looked like more of a one dimensional pressure fighter being in there with Jacobs and Canelo, two highly skilled boxers who can fight off the backfoot.

    G is really more of an upright boxer who works behind the jab. Just watch the first round vs Lemieux, he's not just really pressuring Lemieux, he's just working behind the jab, being patient and waiting for his opportunities at big punching to present themelves.

    G is a pretty skilled boxer who just happens to have power. Vs Canelo he was just out of his element because he was in there with someone who's more skilled and athletic than him. But lets not act like G is just some come-forward pressure fighter who typically absorbs a lot of punishment as part of his usual style.

    Vs Canelo he started caming forward a lot in the middle rounds because he was getting outboxed and needed to be more aggressive to make the fight more competative. He hasn't had to really aggressively press in a sustained way like that in most of his fights.
     
  11. Gennady

    Gennady Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When GGG starts to slowing down (it won't happen in May because in September he was still world class and won clearly against a runner) he can still win fights with Mayweather style, using left jabs only. I think that's what he should do against Canelo in May, and El Pollo can't do anything against him. It would be a boring fight, no knockdowns, but 120-108 for GGG.
     
  12. IsaL

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    Anytime someone uses "El Pollo", not only do they sound like a complete ******s, but in a way its like a compliment. Haters used to call ODLH a chicken, and look at that chicken now, a HoFer, an ATG, and still one of the biggest names in boxing TODAY.
     
  13. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Debate should always be by using facts and informed opinion,I am not going to indulge you by answering that question you posed as its caer as day that do not posses the basic skills/mindset to achieve this small criteria.
     
  14. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Lol, look at my content on this forum and look at yours.

    You come across as an infitile cry baby who slings childish insults when called out and refuses to engage in civil arguments to back up your "opinions".

    You follow me around looking for validation and attention and quite honestly I have a 1 year old I give that too, so that's why I asked if you are willing to debate me in a civil debate, but instead you make up an excuse about my intellect not being on par with yours, yet I've spanked you in every exchnage we've had including this one.

    If you would like to debate a topic you disagree with me feel free to start, if you just want to follow me around slinging insults I ask you to not quote me so to waste my time.
     
  15. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, sorry, not even a draw was fair, let alone canelo winning. GGG landed so many more punches, came forward and fought 100% of that fight. Canelo had his moments, but backpeddled most of the night which isn't even his style. But GGG pressured and forced him back, like an ocean pushing a log around. lol Canelo didn't fight 100% of every round.
    As for the punches, just go to Autorias boxing on utube, and see all the real punches landed in slomo. It was like 180-80.
    And even in those last couple of rounds, GGG was purposely sticking his chin out and begging canelo to hit him so they could exchange.
    I bet this rematch PPV doesn't sell as much either, a lot of people still have a bad taste in their mouth. Heard a local radio sports channel talking about, they aren't boxing guys really but mentioned how that was such an awful decision they aren't really interested in watching another crooked fight again. This stuff is getting really bad for boxing.