Teddy atlas is a pacquiao hater with old school bias

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by cuco10701, May 28, 2011.


  1. cuco10701

    cuco10701 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Teddy Atlas will be at his PacHating best before, during, and after the Marquez/Pacquiao III fight. He will thump his chest how Manny Pacquiao’s win over Juan Manuel Marquez was empty and at the same time give Mayweather’s victory over Marquez a thumbs up, make that two thumbs up. Atlas will repeat how the old days were better in boxing than the current state.
    As evident in every Olympics, records are being broken because today’s athletes are bigger, stronger, faster, quicker, better trained, and over all better athletes. Of course Atlas has no clue that today’s athletes also include boxers. Do you guys think Atlas knows that boxing is also an Olympic event?
    Of course Atlas is incapable of knowing that in the olden days boxers used tomato cans to stay in shape between big fights.
    In July of 1949 Sugar Ray Robinson beat Kid Gavilan in a World Welterweight Title fight. In Robinson’s next seven fights after beating Gavilan, it consisted of the following:
    8/24-1949 Steve Belloise 90-10-3
    9/09-1949 Benny Evans 33-36-5
    9/12- 1949 Charley Dodson 38-29-4
    11/9-1949 Don Lee 46-17-9
    11/13-1949 Vern Lester 25-25-12
    2/30-1950 George LaRover 66-26-6
    2/13-1950 Al Mobley 50-26-1950
    In another stretch after Robinson loss to Joey Maxim in June 25th of 1952, his next five fights were:
    1/5-1955 Joe Rindone 36-13-4
    1/19-1955 Ralph Jones 32-12-3
    3/29-1955 Johnny Lombardo 32-12-2
    4/14-1955 Ted Olla 36-18-2
    5/4-1955 Garth Panter 56-19-3
    Another stretch. After Robinson loss to Gene Fulmer in March 4rth of 1961, his next four opponents were:
    9/25-1961 Wilf Greaves 34-20-1
    10/21-1961 Denny Moyer 30-5-0
    11/20-1961 Al Hauser 7-15-2
    10/21-1961 Denny Moyer 30-6-0
    4/27-1962 Bobby Lee 0-1-0
    As you can see, Atlas fails at his argument how the old boxers were better than today’s. He always brings up how many and how often the old time boxers were fighting. Could you imagine if Pacquiao fought someone with a 33-36-5 record after a championship fight like Robinson did.
    It just shows you how bias Teddy Atlas is to the old school.
    And let’s see Atlas’ failed predictions that he made on ESPN. Is ESPN actually paying this guy? I need to call ESPN.
    Mosley over Cotto
    De La Hoya over Mayweather
    Kessler over Calzaghe
    Mayorga over Oscar Dela Hoya
    Thompson over Klitschko
    Barrera over Pacquioa in rematch
    Ibragimov over Wlad
    Margarito over Mosley:-(
     
  2. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Teddy loves to HATE.
     
  3. Sean Juan

    Sean Juan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really seems like this could have gone in one of the other Teddy Atlas threads.

    But seriously, some of those fights are 2 weeks apart. Old school fighters fought ALL THE TIME and what you seem to be missing is, for example, the five fights after the Maxim fight were 3 years later. As you should have been able to see, boxers in the past weren't scared to risk the 0 at the end of their record because they fought all the time.


    I can't believe anyone would be so ridiculous as to try to discredit Robinson for fighting 7 times in less than a year after fighting Kid Gavilan, a great fighter who gave Robinson hell.
    After losing to Maxim, he didn't fight for 3 years.

    After the Fullmer loss, those fights, again were all contested in less than a years time.

    Name one fighter that fights like that today. You can't.
    Silly post, thread should be deleted.
     
  4. Sean Juan

    Sean Juan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some of those guys were not bad fighters either. Ralph Jones for example went the distance with good fighters like Laszlo Papp, Kid Gavilan and Joey Giardello, Gene Fullmer and Johnny Saxton and actually beat an old Kid Gavilan.

    Steve Belloise wasn't terrible either. Beat Tommy Bell.

    Those 5 fights you mention after the Joey Maxim fight, again were all within a couple of months- he fought 2 more times that year against Rocky Castellani, a decent fighter and then Bobo Olson for the middleweight championship of the world. All in less than a year.

    The original post is boxreccing at its worst. Do more research next time besides looking at the # in the loss column on someones record.
     
  5. Dio

    Dio Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Teddy would KO manny in under 4 rounds, REEL TALK
     
  6. Kittikasem

    Kittikasem Guest

    Teddy is a worthless piece of ****. A hate-filled ****.
     
  7. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    old school fighters fought more often that was about it. i'll take pac, cotto, margarito run of fights fighting everybody in consecutive fights in their primes, any day of the week
     
  8. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    those fighters back then had to fight to support their families, now you don't need all those extra fluff fights to stay busy. i wonder how many actual fights he had if you take out all the bull**** fights, keeping of course all the ones that he had on his way to his first title shot.
     
  9. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    robinson and lamotta fought TWICE within a month! these old-time guys were tough tough tough.
     
  10. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    The mentality of the old-school fighter is far superior than the mentality of the modern fighter. But I'm not sure about the physical and talent side of things. That, I feel, is harder to determine.

    But yes, Teddy's a twat.
     
  11. aka TORA

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    he does have his good moments

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpX3fJunp1M&feature=related[/ame]
     
  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yeah, some of these wet-behind-the ears punks don't know **** about boxing or have respect for its history. Fact is, a lot of those old-time fighters would lay today's pampered superstars out cold.:yep
     
  13. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    atlas hates everyone who is successful and not from the states
     
  14. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is what keeps boxing alive, the crazy opinions and discussions and the hate. We all talk crazy at times:D Teddy is just another Bert, they always talk of old school fighters as the greatest. They just dont reall know that todays and future fighters are just stronger, smarter, and faster when it comes to boxing and even now in the business side:good
     
  15. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I was happy to see a commissioner called out on **** like this, I remember watching this **** live and I was stuck, That fight was a shut out basicly for EA, and well I dont even have to tell you they robbed him.

    What gets me is even while we have video that shows the fight the scoring and the commissioner not knowing ****, they still did not investigate this and make the correct ruling..:-(