Teddy Atlas will be at his PacHating best before, during, and after the Marquez/Pacquiao III fight. He will thump his chest how Manny Pacquiaos win over Juan Manuel Marquez was empty and at the same time give Mayweathers victory over Marquez a thumbs up, make that two thumbs up. Atlas will repeat how the old days were better in boxing than the current state. As evident in every Olympics, records are being broken because todays athletes are bigger, stronger, faster, quicker, better trained, and over all better athletes. Of course Atlas has no clue that todays athletes also include boxers. Do you guys think Atlas knows that boxing is also an Olympic event? Of course Atlas is incapable of knowing that in the olden days boxers used tomato cans to stay in shape between big fights. In July of 1949 Sugar Ray Robinson beat Kid Gavilan in a World Welterweight Title fight. In Robinsons next seven fights after beating Gavilan, it consisted of the following: 8/24-1949 Steve Belloise 90-10-3 9/09-1949 Benny Evans 33-36-5 9/12- 1949 Charley Dodson 38-29-4 11/9-1949 Don Lee 46-17-9 11/13-1949 Vern Lester 25-25-12 2/30-1950 George LaRover 66-26-6 2/13-1950 Al Mobley 50-26-1950 In another stretch after Robinson loss to Joey Maxim in June 25th of 1952, his next five fights were: 1/5-1955 Joe Rindone 36-13-4 1/19-1955 Ralph Jones 32-12-3 3/29-1955 Johnny Lombardo 32-12-2 4/14-1955 Ted Olla 36-18-2 5/4-1955 Garth Panter 56-19-3 Another stretch. After Robinson loss to Gene Fulmer in March 4rth of 1961, his next four opponents were: 9/25-1961 Wilf Greaves 34-20-1 10/21-1961 Denny Moyer 30-5-0 11/20-1961 Al Hauser 7-15-2 10/21-1961 Denny Moyer 30-6-0 4/27-1962 Bobby Lee 0-1-0 As you can see, Atlas fails at his argument how the old boxers were better than todays. He always brings up how many and how often the old time boxers were fighting. Could you imagine if Pacquiao fought someone with a 33-36-5 record after a championship fight like Robinson did. It just shows you how bias Teddy Atlas is to the old school. And lets see Atlas failed predictions that he made on ESPN. Is ESPN actually paying this guy? I need to call ESPN. Mosley over Cotto De La Hoya over Mayweather Kessler over Calzaghe Mayorga over Oscar Dela Hoya Thompson over Klitschko Barrera over Pacquioa in rematch Ibragimov over Wlad Margarito over Mosley:-(
Really seems like this could have gone in one of the other Teddy Atlas threads. But seriously, some of those fights are 2 weeks apart. Old school fighters fought ALL THE TIME and what you seem to be missing is, for example, the five fights after the Maxim fight were 3 years later. As you should have been able to see, boxers in the past weren't scared to risk the 0 at the end of their record because they fought all the time. I can't believe anyone would be so ridiculous as to try to discredit Robinson for fighting 7 times in less than a year after fighting Kid Gavilan, a great fighter who gave Robinson hell. After losing to Maxim, he didn't fight for 3 years. After the Fullmer loss, those fights, again were all contested in less than a years time. Name one fighter that fights like that today. You can't. Silly post, thread should be deleted.
Some of those guys were not bad fighters either. Ralph Jones for example went the distance with good fighters like Laszlo Papp, Kid Gavilan and Joey Giardello, Gene Fullmer and Johnny Saxton and actually beat an old Kid Gavilan. Steve Belloise wasn't terrible either. Beat Tommy Bell. Those 5 fights you mention after the Joey Maxim fight, again were all within a couple of months- he fought 2 more times that year against Rocky Castellani, a decent fighter and then Bobo Olson for the middleweight championship of the world. All in less than a year. The original post is boxreccing at its worst. Do more research next time besides looking at the # in the loss column on someones record.
old school fighters fought more often that was about it. i'll take pac, cotto, margarito run of fights fighting everybody in consecutive fights in their primes, any day of the week
those fighters back then had to fight to support their families, now you don't need all those extra fluff fights to stay busy. i wonder how many actual fights he had if you take out all the bull**** fights, keeping of course all the ones that he had on his way to his first title shot.
The mentality of the old-school fighter is far superior than the mentality of the modern fighter. But I'm not sure about the physical and talent side of things. That, I feel, is harder to determine. But yes, Teddy's a twat.
Yeah, some of these wet-behind-the ears punks don't know **** about boxing or have respect for its history. Fact is, a lot of those old-time fighters would lay today's pampered superstars out cold.:yep
This is what keeps boxing alive, the crazy opinions and discussions and the hate. We all talk crazy at times Teddy is just another Bert, they always talk of old school fighters as the greatest. They just dont reall know that todays and future fighters are just stronger, smarter, and faster when it comes to boxing and even now in the business side:good
I was happy to see a commissioner called out on **** like this, I remember watching this **** live and I was stuck, That fight was a shut out basicly for EA, and well I dont even have to tell you they robbed him. What gets me is even while we have video that shows the fight the scoring and the commissioner not knowing ****, they still did not investigate this and make the correct ruling..:-(
