Teddy Atlas & Jack Newfield tear a strip off Mike Tyson after losing to Holyfield....

The last pick Atlas ever got right.

I remember seeing this some years ago, and it's very interesting. There's no doubt that Atlas is bitter, but he was right about a lot of what he said.

 

Even though these two are career Tyson haters, there is a lot of truthful points. Where I dont agree is that Tyson never had character. Tyson didnt scare all of his opponents and make silent agreements with all of them. I dont care how poor your opponents are, you cant get as far as Tyson did with a lack of character.
With a personality like Tyson I believe you can instill character in him if hes around the right people, and even Atlas has changed his tone on Tyson and what he could have become had he stayed with the right people.

 

Very interesting viewing. This is the first i have seen this and i think it got a bit too personal, stopping short of character assassination. Im not sure what way to take Atlas, hes right about a lot of stuff here but he seems to have an agenda and both had a look of 'I told you so' about them. Funnily enough im in the middle of reading jack newfields book on don king

 

Yeah, i found Atlas to be very self serving in this interview. I don't know as much about Newfield but he seemed to have an agenda too. A lot of it was right but Atlas went a bit overboard. He made it seem as if Tyson never really accomplished anything. He said nobody stood up to Tyson until Douglas. Not true. Berbick stood up to him and got KTFO. He beat a lot of good fighters before Douglas.

 

V.good video - Jack Newfield AND Teddy Atlas are both Tyson-Xperts - 100% of what they say about him = truth/fact IMO. :deal

 

Yes he did, thats why I also think its a lot of BS. Newfield is the one who did the biography on King that really brought alot of skeletons out of his closet. King despised Newfield and called him every name in the book anytime he was in the same room as him. Newfield didnt speak this way about Tyson when he was with Cus, and theres plenty of interviews and columns he wrote favorably about Tyson up until he aligned with King.

 

Why do we always get 'Tyson never had any heart' and never say the same of other fighters? Against Holyfield he was fighting back until the end, he just came up short.

This Atlas interview is the standard of General Forum 'hating' threads. It has facts, twisting facts but is clearly biased, although I think Atlas believes what hes saying because he wants too. Tyson's failure made Atlas feel better for what happened

 

Young Foreman was similar to tyson in that, if you survived the early onslaught, you had a chance. Are we to believe that Ali was the only guy who "stood up" to Foreman? Lyle "stood up" to him massively and got stopped. Frazier as well. So by association, does that mean Foreman lacked character? Bull****. To quote Atlas himself in the interview "this isn't Rocket Scientry" (whatever the **** Scientry is). Did Tyson have character flaws? Absolutely (so does Atlas by the way). Did he lack the character to become a dominant champion? Obviously not.

 

Atlas has been a lot more forgiving when discussing Tyson in recent years. He hated Tyson with a passion for a while, but he was actually asked at one point to start training Tyson again and he agreed. Hypocrite

 

Tyson never overcame adversity like Foreman did against Lyle though. Even in the Ruddock fights he was in control.

 

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Point taken, altough I don't think Lyle was the guy to do that to prime Tyson. I just think that to achieve what he did, he obviously had to have some character (as applicable to boxing).