Teddy Atlas: 'Mike Tyson’s a phony'

Depending on the story you believe.....Tyson was 15 Teddy's niece was 12 or 13....Tyson made an advance and grabbed her ass...or something more...I don't know, but that was the extent of the accusations. Teddy of course went after Mike with a gun and put it in his mouth, threatening to kill him. Tyson was wrong but Mike did not **** the girl or beat on her. He was always a troubled kid and as a teen....Well...even bright young teens make bone headed mistakes. Again...not condoning what Mike did as a 15 year old boy it's something that is not unheard of. However, putting a gun in the mouth of a teenage boy doesn't necessarily happen everyday.

 

So much obvious hate for being kicked off that team till this day. The man is still obsessed and he is really losing it.

 

That is ***ual assault right? How do you defend that ****!!

 

Damn they still beefing?

 

mike, was always delusional folks. just accept it, as charles barkley said im not your role model!!

 

Moorer didn't even listen to Atlas when Atlas was pleading with him. Moorer just slept walked in the rounds after Atlas was practically begging him to fight harder and let his hands go.

Moorer fought with more passion and heart before and after Atlas.

Atlas may speak out on the crap that goes on in boxing but he takes part in some of the crap too. Speaking out so loudly against mismatches and then putting his own fighter in numerous mismatches.

Both Tyson and Atlas are kind of crazy I think. Actually, Moorer probably is kind of nuts too.

Exactly.

During the first Holyfield fight, even Jim Lampley commented on how Moorer was fighting so non-chalantly after Atlas was pleading with him, and that he'd "get another scorching from Atlas".

It's not Atlas's fault that Moorer didn't listen (especially against Foreman), but it is hardly any evidence of Atlas being this "master motivator" when his guys don't even listen.

Moorer might have just been leery of the early knockdown, and Holyfield's ability to come back when he appeared hurt. Moorer was having a nice sequence before Holyfield came back and dropped him.

It is pretty funny when people talk about how Atlas "willed" Moorer to the heavyweight title. If you watch the fight, you can see that Moorer didn't do much at all in the rounds after Atlas yelled at him. If you watch his whole career, you will see him fighting with more passion and heart both BEFORE and AFTER his time with Atlas.

Perhaps it is another myth created by the revisionist history of HBO's Legendary Nights.

 

I think this would be more fitting to Atlas himself, not Tyson. He (Atlas) is constantly telling obvious bull**** while apparently believing in it (so he would pass a polygraph test).

It amazes me how he got (and kept) his work as a trainer and a commentator. He is overrated heavily as the 1st one and extremely biased as the 2nd.

 

Constantly? No. Mostly Friday nights.

 

Quote:
"At one point Tyson went too far and grabbed Atlas' 11-year old niece and intimidated her and told her he was going to **** her--this became the breaking point in the relationship between Atlas, Tyson, and D'Amato. Atlas came home to see his wife, sister-in-law, and niece in tears after the incident and found out what had happened. He also knew that based on prior history D'Amato wouldn't punish Tyson for what he'd done. Atlas got a pistol from a friend and confronted Tyson later that night, putting the gun to his ear and telling him to stay away from his family or die. Tyson, street-hardened, didn't take Atlas' threat seriously until Atlas fired off a close warning shot. At that point Tyson got the message but the relationship was severed. Atlas was offered a cut of Tyson's career earnings to walk away from the gym but instead opted to leave the Catskills on his own volition, knowingly leaving millions of dollars on the table--he didn't want to trade his honour for money."
Anyone actually believe directly Mike threatened the girl with ****? Tyson's version sounded pretty believable, he was an awkward and shy teenage boy who impulsively put a move on a friendly girl who was part of his extended social circle and the girl reacted negatively.
I'd believe Tyson was perhaps a little intimidating in his approach because of the style of 'courtship' he'd probably observed in Brownsville but I'd say it would have mostly come down to a shy and awkward teenage boy, probably emotionally even younger than his years, making an inappropriate and unwelcome romantic\***ual advance. It happens and is hardly a hanging offence.