Teddy Atlas on AJ v Wlad fight not being greatest ever

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rski, May 4, 2017.


  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who the hell is saying this is the best heavyweight fight ever? It's not even close.

    Lol at saying Foreman/Lyle was in the 80's.
     
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  2. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Atlas makes Captain Obvious look shrewd.
     
  3. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The hate is strong with this one. Atlas is a hateful moron, I never listen to him.

    And while I wouldn't call it the single greatest fight ever, I've been watching atg hw reruns since then, and it compares very favorably.
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    This is kind of a weird fact. I was looking at the Ring Fight of the Year list and nobody bigger than a welterweight has won in over 20 years. For heavyweight fights, 2 Holyfield matches won in the 90s, no heavyweight fights won in the 80s, but heavyweights won 7 years of the 70s (Ali/Foreman), 4 times in the 60s (Ali, Frazier, Patterson), 4 times in the 50s (Marciano, Walcott, Charles), once in the 40s (Louis), 6 times in the 30s (Louis, Schmeling, Baer), and 4 times in the 20s (Dempsey, Schmeling).
     
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  5. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    So I take it you've not seen many HW fights then?

    wrong person, meant to quote staminakills
     
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  6. howard29

    howard29 Member Full Member

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    It was a good fight, but the first 4 rounds were snoozers, as well as 9-10. A couple of HW fights that come to mind I would easily rank over this one are:

    Holmes/Norton
    Foreman/Lyle
    Ali/Frazier I & III
    Bowe/Holyfield I
    Tua/Ibeabuchi
    Ali/Norton I
    Lewis/Mercer
     
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  7. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The thing is, these guys are really super heavyweights. They are tremendously athletic for men of their stature, but no where near the skill level of a great smaller fighters, who don't have a huge size and power advantages over another fighter at their weight. Was this fought on the same level of intelligence as Lewis-Holyfield, or Ali-Frazier? Definitely not. Not even close. It was far more amateurish in every way. BUT it was exciting if you like a display of KO power and heart. If you're watching to see a great technical encounter, best not watch heavyweight boxing in 2017.
     
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  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Actually he makes little sense. Lyle vs foreman was no where near the talent that Joshua and klitchko displayed. If anything it resembles Lewis vs Vitali ,two lumbering fighters desperatley trying to k.o one another but staying in the center of the ring pushing each other back and forth and at times hovering against the ropes from exhaustion going shot for shot ina sense .They were both tired and not really fit enough to display what we saw last saturday bc they BOTH took the fight on two weeks notice...not comparable in quality but still better than foreman /Lyle minus the knock downs.


    You rarley see skills on dispaly with Klitchko vs Joshua when two punchers are involved and one has only 18 fights the other is 41. It was also a title fight in front of 90,000 fans,not sure what Teddie drank before this one but this was a quality fight not a toughman looking one in which foreman and lyle resembles after 2 rnds.

    Hes simply just being Nostalgic Nut Atlas here! Breazeale vs Izu was better than foreman vs lyle too if not as good......:confused:
     
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  9. jm2729v

    jm2729v Active Member Full Member

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    I understand what Teddy Atlas was trying to say and he is right (Holyfield vs bowe) but the way he said it made him look like a nostalgia ***** downer
     
  10. seck

    seck Active Member banned Full Member

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    Lewis vs Klitschko
     
  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    He isn't saying it wasn't a great fight , more pointing out that people are going over board cos there hasn't been many good HW fight in about 10 years.

    Its still a great fight.
     
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  12. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Makes sense, if you didn't know that the HW division existed before the millenium.
     
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  13. Okin129

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    I don't think that either of them has more punching power than AJ or Wlad.
     
  14. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who cares? It was a great fight, that's enough for me
     
  15. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis certainly did imo