Teddy Atlas pushes old Foreman

As always....

 

Boxed Ears my friend, I have enjoyed chatting with you privately.

This is perhaps one of the times you ackknowledged you cannnot help but stir the pot?
You really believe that Atlas would have had any decent chance if George had risen to the challenge?

 

Sure B.E. whatever you say, lol! Atlas musta put an Atlas-sized whuppin' on your arse. ;-)

I do stipulate that Atlas would have at least a marginally beter chance than Piers Morgan, Morgan Fairchild, Tracey Morgan, or even Morgan Freeman.

 

Atlas is a very tough street guy and a former amateur fighter but unless he sucker punched Foreman half a dozen times while Foreman was sitting and then hit him w a heavy object it is still a gigantic jump to him taking on George Foreman who himself was known as an absolute monster in the street .. Former All Pro Oakland Raider Corner Back Lester Haynes, himself a bad ass, tells about his experience growing up in Houston's Fifth Ward and meeting Georger Foreman ..

"First time I met George Foreman, I was in the seventh grade, hanging around the neighborhood store." This is from Lester Hayes, a future NFL star, whose own gang specialized "in doing mischievous things, pillaging the 7-Eleven, things of that nature." Foreman, older by a few years, approached him for the loan of a nickel, and a bite of a hamburger, which he then consumed in its entirety. "The next time I saw George, the idea of a nickel was null and void. I loaned him a quarter. It seemed to me huge inflation was taking place. Of course, I would have gone home and found a quarter for him if I didn't have one on me. He was a very, very big kid and had a reputation for savage butt kickings. That was his forte. So by the early age of twelve, I had met George Foreman twice and I found both occasions extremely taxing. Foreman ranged far and wide, at least in the Fifth Ward, extracting his "silver coin toll," as it was known, and administering beatings. "

Jim Brown, himself at the time considered a super tough guy talks about seeing Foreman hit the heavy bag in Zaire ..

"Jim Brown: Before the fight, I was supposed to do a news piece with George, where I would put some gloves on and get in the ring with him. But I saw George hitting the heavy bag and said: 'Nope, I'm not getting in the ring with that. "

Don't think for one minute than right below the veneer of Hamburger George wasn't the same old axe murderer ..

 

Ah OK B.E., but the rest of us are saying that if both are street fighters, & one is a way bigger Professional fighter, unless an Atlas did something completely vicious, illegal & likely to get him locked up-like getting the jump with a baseball bat or a knife-or just ran for the hills...

If Foreman actually wanted to make a fight of it, then it would be highly unlikely Atlas would win or remain healthy &/or conscious.

 

Michael Moorer had some problems of his own. I think Teddy Atlas sensed that George Foreman was intimidating his fighter at those press conferences. Perhaps he was trying to light a fire under Moorer which God knows was a good idea. Old man Foreman still had a presence about him and if he sensed that he could rattle Moorer he would have owned him.

It would have been interesting to see Old George with Mike Tyson on one of those long press tours. By the time they were in the 3rd or 4th city Tyson would of ask Foreman permission to talk.

 

I agree. I`ve been a fan of Teddy. Met him once when I was about 20. He was with Moorer at a car dealership. When I got a chance to talk to him all he wanted to do was talk to me and see what I was doing with my life school, work etc. I think he is a good teacher and is just passionate about it and its gonna rub some people the wrong way. He is genuine IMO.

 

Atlas was from a privelaged background he gravitated to boxing and tough guys but he was no Foreman by any stretch....Foreman would have killed him

The son of a doctor, Atlas grew up in a wealthy area of [url]Staten Island[/url], [url]New York City[/url], [url]New York[/url]. His mother, Mary Riley Atlas, was a former contestant in the Miss America pageant system, as well as a model.[url][1][/url] His father was of [url]Hungarian Jewish[/url] ancestry. Atlas spent summers in [url]Spring Lake, New Jersey[/url], with his family's friends.

By his own admission, Atlas had a somewhat troubled, rebellious youth. He dropped out of school and was arrested several times. He participated in an armed robbery and served time on [url]Rikers Island[/url]. Atlas was involved in a street fight in [url]Stapleton, Staten Island[/url], in which his face was severely slashed with a "007" [url]flick knife[/url]. The wound took 400 stitches in total to close, with 200 on the outside of his face and 200 on the inside. The attack left him with a distinctive scar.

Teddy Atlas trained as an amateur boxer with [url]Hall of Fame[/url] trainer [url]Cus D'Amato[/url]. He had some amateur fights but had to turn to work as a trainer due to a back injury. Atlas was an assistant to D'Amato, although his role in the Catskill Boxing Club was short-lived. His duties included assisting in the training of D'Amato's teenage protégé [url]Mike Tyson[/url]. However, Atlas left the camp in 1982 following an altercation with the 15-year-old Tyson after Tyson had been sexually inappropriate with an 11-year-old female relative of Atlas' (Tyson said he had grabbed the girl's buttocks). Atlas put a .38 caliber handgun to Tyson's ear and told him to never touch his family again, or he would kill him if he did.

I am not defending Tyson grabbing a girls butt but when a grown man feels the need to pull out a .38 and threaten a 15yr old I am not seeing the fighter you seem to think he is.

 

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In his autobiography, Atlas claimed he was so angry at having been fired by Lalonde that he went to Lalonde's house with a gun intending to kill him. However, Lalonde refuted Atlas' story, claiming he did not even live at the apartment Atlas described at the time. Lalonde also called Atlas "the least significant of all my trainers throughout my career."[url][5][/url]

 

That was a cut and paste his background is that of a wannabe and not in a million years is Atlas a tough guy especially like a Foreman LOLOL of course Teddy "everyone look at me" Atlas is a tough guy with a 38 in his hand....how many people has he killed??? especially not in the mold of a real fighter like Foreman, Tyson or Liston or any of them he couldn't handle being a low level amateur let alone the life of a real tough guy...you think he is the only guy who has been cut? the only guy who ever got pinched stealing? did time?? for all you know he was a punk behind bars especially without a gun LOLOL

 

According to Lalonde it never happened so whats that about the great Teddy Atlas...I would suspect most on this board grew up fighting and hurting people and some even have killed men Atlas on the other hand may have learned to throw a jab or two but his preference was apparently to pull a gun and luckily his bluff was never called

 

You ain't selling me on Atlas just because he beat you up

 

For gods sake start filleting BE before they go off.