Teddy Atlas says the fighters today can't box. I disagree!

The sweet science is a dying breed, B-Hop is one of the few that are still holding it down.

 

Of course he thinks that, Teddy can't even box himself.

 

Who is he talking about? What boxers of today? And what does he mean by the last of the "boxers"? Is he talking about style. Is he just parroting Richardson saying the kids of today rely more on athleticism than skills? If he is, it's not very well thought out. It sounds more like he is just setting up a premise to back up his predictions that get all fukd' up.

When athletes go though this transition it us usually due to his training or how learned the sport's skills. The environment he grow up in has a huge effect. Kids with no money often learn the sport with little fundamental training. Some kids grow up in sports families and the skills are passed down. Obviously the kids with Olympic training have more fundamentals than those with no exposure and more natural ability and desire. His statements mean nothing about the boxers of today if he is talking in general about the state of boxing related to the skills the fighters have. He would have to put together a study with of a huge number of fighters and compare a lot of environmental aspects including win, loss, motivation and it's effects to even come close to supporting that statement in general terms without getting specific.

 

Atlas is correct, he just does a **** poor job communicating what his point it.

Infighting is a lost art and it is not just infighting, it is all aspects associated with infighting. By this I mean the ability to smoothly tie your opponent up without lunging and bear hugging the guy. Also the inability of today's fighters to break themselves from a clinch. Damn near every one of wait for the ref to break them. Today's fighters inability to work inside. And so on and so on.

 

Teddy is a dying breed but a very positive thing for boxing once he is gone. We need more fighters to be analyst and we are seeing this more and more. These guys like Teddy and Bert are sometimes the reason why boxing has been dying for over 100 years They are confuse.

 

As much as I still think Atlas is a ****ing idiot,that doesn't mean he doesn't have a point here. He's particularly right in the higher weight classes...where 160-175 used to be stacked, now top boxers from those weight ranges aren't near as common. The younger generation (Pascal, Pavlik, Lacy, Kessler) were soundly outboxed by Calzaghe and Hopkins, who were significantly older in all of those fights. Glen Johnson, who is a good but not great fighter, destroyed Allan Green and gave Chad Dawson all he could handle in the first fight. Sergio Martinez is destroying younger, prime fighters.

Those are fights that the younger fighters should've been winning or making significantly better showings in. Historically, the new fighters send the old school out with losses. This time around, they can't do it (Dawson vs Johnson and Tarver being exceptions). That's a sign of weakness in the current generation.

 

srsly? 204 pound Joe Louis could beat the K Bros?

I think people have a tendency to forget how much smaller the heavyweights of old are compared to fighters today.

 

210 lb Chris Byrd beat one.

 

was he ahead on the scorecards when Vitali didn't answer the bell? Not to be a dick or nothing but that's not exactly a decisive victory over the guy, ya know?Wlad beat him after that.

 

Joe Louis also beat some guys as big as Vitali.

 

I agree. a 46 year old guy would not have lasted a few rounds with guys like Pryor or Hearns or Hagler or Spinks in the 1980s.

 

Wlad avenging Viltali is irrelevant. They're 2 different fighters.

If Joe Louis is too small then what about guys like Holyfield, Frazier, prime Ali, Holmes etc? All have fought at around 210 or under in or around their primes.

Not saying that I'd for sure bet on Louis, just that his size isn't that small and shouldn't count him out.

 

You understand that they run on grass at one stage? They even claim that Ben Johnson run is still the fastest 100 ever because of the difference in the running track. Boxing is different ! These guy fought every couple of weeks and became very good at it. Films of that time don't give a real clue because the frame speed makes it look slow. Just a thought

 

Cool argument bro. The weightlifters run on grass.

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Check out the indoor records and get back to me with your nonsensical reasoning.

 

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I agree with Atlas on the whole.

Most of of better boxers of today are from the previous generation, JMM etc.