Teddy Atlas's 10 Greatest Heavyweights of All Time.

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    This is a 100% rational take. He is interesting but Teddy is subscribed to drawing in casuals with all that yelling. This is a pity for the rest of us.
     
    choklab, May 11, 2025 at 4:16 PM
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  2. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    What does it matter who's era is or isn't, Holyfield still fought the better opposition and has BEATEN better opposition than Usyk.
     
    Mandela2039, May 11, 2025 at 7:25 PM
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  3. JohnThomas1

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    That and Tunney and Dempsey is the worst of it. Actually, given he puts solid emphasis on historical significance Dempsey is defendable.
     
    JohnThomas1, May 11, 2025 at 7:52 PM
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  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    And he got beat by John Ruiz. And he got beat by the otherwise unimpressive Riddick Bowe and Mike Moorer.

    I will not go onto those who beat him after Ruiz as Usyk hasn't reached that age yet.
     
    Seamus, May 11, 2025 at 8:09 PM
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    Usyk is 18 fights behind that. Holyfield had 41 fights behind him at that point, 23 at heavyweight. Usyk has 23 total with just 7 in the open division. It'll take Usyk another decade or more to reach 41.

    Age is just one piece of the puzzle and obviously slanted toward Usyk. The argument between classists and modernists moving forward will be Usyk's quality of work vs Holyfields volume. If Usyks get rolled in the next fight or two he will come back noticeably.
     
    JohnThomas1, May 11, 2025 at 9:05 PM
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  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    He's back!
     
    swagdelfadeel, May 11, 2025 at 11:20 PM
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    So you have Foreman at 5 or 6 depending on the day, yet think Atlas rating him at number 5 is too high?
     
    swagdelfadeel, May 11, 2025 at 11:22 PM
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