Teenage Beterbiev knocks out dude with a left hook

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks. But the problem is the same people who believe these Soviet brothers would've lost with less amateur fights under their belts don't believe they were capable of replicating the success of these elite or great North Americans who turned pro much younger than they did and you won't ever hear a peep about how pivotal that stacked deck of home advantage for their entire careers (when facing foreigners especially) and home refs and judges were to their success, maintaining it, their unbeaten records and creating the illusion of invincibility for those other fighters and their countrymen
     
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  2. Barrf

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    He's got a strong everything. One of those guys with KO power in anything he throws, with either hand. Doesn't mean that he doesn't prefer throwing certain punches over others though.
     
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  3. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm hanging in. I'm hoping my man Stanionis can pull it off.
     
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  4. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's not really the case with Beterbiev though. He turned pro early enough to have fought Stevenson, Ward, and Kovalev which would have hugely enhanced his resume. There no reason he couldn't have faced Kovalev in 2015 with the winner fighting Ward. For whatever reason he wasn't able to get fights with those guys despite being highly ranked.
     
  5. Barrf

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    except, the guys who do that have ended up great. Bivol, Beterbiev, Usyk…. all so, so much better than their number of pro fights would indicate.

    I mean, Usyk is at the fight on an undercard and help carry the headliner’s jock strap number, except he’s the best of his era and looks like he’d give second career Ali a run for his money.
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's more do to with Bivol's great defence and boxing skills shutting down Beterbiev's offence rather than his chin.

    Beterbiev only landed 17 percent of his punches vs Bivol in their 2nd fight which shows you Beterbiev has a very hard time getting his offence going.
     
  7. bjl12

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    Bivol waited till Beter was 40 for a reason....imho
     
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  8. Serge

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    It is the case. There was an opportunity for the Kovalev fight to be made but Team Beterbiev turned it down at the time for whatever reason which I have no interest in getting into.

    But even if it was the worst case scenario and it was a duck, to be fair, Beterbiev was only 9-0 at the time and Kovalev was like 27-0, the three-belt unified champion, and I think he was ranked like P4P #3 at the time with seven world title fights experience under his belt and Beterbiev had fought no one other than Cloud and a washed Campillo so it was a super risky fight for them to take then

    Had Ward not decided to retire when the division was on fire at 32 or 33 y/o the fight vs Beterbiev could easily have been made but he did. He never would've fought Beterbiev. He shamelessly ducked Adonis for goodness sake.

    Beterbiev did call out Adonis but they were both under the same promoter and one whom Beterbiev tried to break free from which lead to him being inactive for like at least a year IIRC as they ended up battling it out in court.

    Again, I'm not interested in going through all this stuff. My point is a very simple one: Had Beterbiev turned pro one Olympic cycle earlier or much younger than he did which was freaking 28.5 y/o he would've achieved much more than he has.
     
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  9. UniversalPart

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    Kovalev wanted to fight Beterbiev in Russia rather than neutral ground like America.

    Team Beterbiev turned it down because they were afraid of being robbed by pro-Russian officials who could easily have been anti-Chechen.

    Beterbiev also approached Eddie Hearn in 2018 about fighting Usyk too ....
     
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  10. Serge

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    Yes, and they still would've done so had they turned pro earlier only with many more of their prime healthy years to accomplish more in the pros. Beterbiev is 40 y/o and his career has been plagued with injuries and a lot of inactivity due to injury. Usyk is 38 y/o and he has been past his prime for years and the fact he has managed to become undisputed at HW, between the age of four months shy of turning 35 when winning his first HW belts and a couple of months shy of turning 38 when winning the 4th one, is a testament to his greatness but a younger prime Usyk would've done even better.

    Same goes for Beterbiev, who again, is 40 y/o
     
  11. tinman

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    A 30-34 year old Beterbiev does the same thing to Bivol.

    AB was the best LHW since Spinks H2H.
     
  12. Serge

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    Yeah, for whatever reason it was, and as said I don't want to get into it because I'm having a lot of trouble with my eyes and I can't research it all, the fight didn't get made back then. But even if it was the absolute worse case scenario and it was a straight duck Beterbiev had only had 9 fights at the time and Kovalev was way further along in his career at the time and much more experienced.

    Beterbiev might well have beaten Kovalev then but the chances of him losing to him at that point were higher too so it's understandable. Kovalev was a monster back then and, as said, at a much more advanced stage of his career.
     
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  13. Barrf

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    lol took a dive

    Edit: oops wrong thread
     
  14. Serge

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    Cool, yeah it has the makings of a quality and fun fight

    I think Stan is up against it. Super Boots is really good, Stan has only fought once since the Butaev fight which was three years ago, and what are the chances of him getting a fair shake from the judges if it goes to the cards?
     
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  15. hoopsman

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    Unfortunately, Stanionis is likely to have trouble getting the nod against an A-side opponent many hope will be the next great welterweight.

    Ennis is also an excellent fighter in his own right.

    Tough match-up all-around.
     
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