I am going to ask for more german football and repeats of 1980's show jumping or whatever **** they show.
Where are the facts for the Froch fight? Also, if he's such a big draw why did no-one give a **** that his fight against Taylor wasn't live? Can you imagine the uproar if a Calzaghe/Hatton/Hamed/Benn/Eubank even Khan fight wasn't shown live? But no-one really cared about Froch - you think if he had really hit five million ITV wouldn't have been really interested? I heard three million for the Pascal fight which is still impressive, but why haven't any TV stations been in contact for the Super Six with a serious offer? Cos boxing isn't a draw! Imagine if fifteen years ago one of our very few world champs was involved in one of the most exciting things to happen to boxing in ages (the super six)? It just wouldn't happen! If boxing was still popular, and we still had characters the people in television would show it - if everyone started hankering over watching Kilroy rather than Corrie you can be damn sure that he'd be on telly four times a week at prime time. and re: boxing being second on Setanta, purely the way I saw it. Boxing had it's own dedicated show, frequent advertising and that. I certainly never watched rugby on Setanta but then I'm not a middle aged toff with worries over my sexuality like all rugger fans seem to be.
ESPN are the only channel likely to pick up any boxing. Once they're happy that they are now up and running ... and when they realise that they've a lot of empty Saturday nights next season when they're down to just 23 Premiership matches ... they might just get interested again. I did hear some news that they might pick up on golf's USPGA rights which they might look to plug the gaps left by missing football. Which could be bad news! Boxing News campaign to bring back boxing on the BBC is pointless. The Beeb are not interested and they have no money. So why would they spend big money for fights at 0300 in the morning for a couple of hundred thousand viewers. Why would they spend a lot of money to put fights on BBC3. The heads of sport there don't like boxing and above that the controllers of the channels don't want boxing cluttering up their channels. They might raise an eyebrow if they were offered Amir Khan. They've heard of no one else and care even less! If ITV do leave the sport then ESPN are last channel standing (other than Sky). They do have money. It's whether they care or think it will add any subscriptions.
Setanta had its own dedicated show for Rugby, Cricket but they were on normal setanta. they had ultimate talk for UFC. it was quite widley reported and i read it on digital spy which do a top 10 rated show each day sort of thing. i remember it was pushing 5mil at its peak. The problem doesn't lie with the TV stations with regards to the Super 6, it lies with Hennesey being a complete tool. however pushing ESPN might get them to show a bit more interest. every little helps. I agree with you. Boxing is nowhere near as popular as it used to be and that is down to the greedy promoters. However there is a still a decent sized hardcore following which the Bunce Hour's popularity and the decent viewing figures ITV4 and Friday Fight Night gets. If ESPN were to show 2 US shows a month, they would get a decent number of subscribers. Boxing doesn't belong on terrestrial but there is a place for it on subscription, as well as PPV at a reasonable price. The reason ITV dont want to show boxing is not due to the lack of viewers, its due to the lack of advertising revenue. Boxing gets allot of viewers but it only targets the male demographic. Males 18-30 used to be the biggest consumer but now its women who advertisers want to appeal to as they have become the biggest consumer (more women work so now they have more cash to spend). advertisers are also clever. 90% of people that watched Mayweather will have taped (sky +) it and watched it sunday morning. whenever an advert came on they would fast forward. Sky+ is actually killing TV advertising. If sky were to put on a PPV show once a month, which had 3-4 competative title fights and 2-3 prospects and went from 7pm to midnight (simular to the states PPV) and cost £5 instead of £15, i think it would do well.
^Too long to quote, but just one points - is it really down to the promoters, or to the actual boxers? How many superstars have we got? Way I see it, since Lewis, we've had one - Hatton, and his PPV results show just how successful he was. Sure, he had the Manchester following, but it spread organically. That's the problem with promotion - you can't force people down the throats of the general public. Take Khan, beloved after the Olympics and then reviled for a couple of years until beginning to get a bit more popular recently - although only really within boxing circles. You can tell how popular people are when they go from free to paid - Howard Stern kept the majority of his audience when he went to radio you had to pay for, yet Khan's audiences have plummeted. Is that down to poor promotion, or just uninteresting boxers? Would the premiership be as popular without Torres, Gerrard, Giggs, Drogba and Heskey?
warren has openly said that he wants to put on bigger shows on a saturday night. sky should let him do a cheaper PPV once a month. You have Khan or another world title fight headlining (mitchell/clev/brook next year), with 2 euro/british/comm title fights and then a couple of his top prospects. i would pay £5 for that every month or you buy a season ticket for say £50. No adverts, 5-6 hours of boxing which would have to be high quality to get the buyers. the thing that pisses me off is that Sky charge £3.50 for a 2 hour film, and they charged £5 for prem plus, so why charge £15 3 hours of boxing?
Hatton only got the huge numbers on PPV when he faced Mayweather. Lewis only did huge numbers against Tyson and Holyfield. for PPV to do well you need an opponent. Barerra will have done decent numbers for Khan but Prescott and Kotelnik were not very good.
For a PPV to "do well" it doesn't need to do huge numbers or an opponent. Khan-Presccot, Hatton-Paulie etc will all have made Sky/Warren a ruck of money to more than offset the advertising lost.