Tell me of anyone at 140 that can match pac's speed and stamina?

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  1. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Another problem some people tend to be missing is that Pac has only had one fight at 135. Pac himself admitted it took him a few fight's at 130 to get used to the new weight. Now we don't really know how he will handle getting roughed up by the men at 135 who will be quick and good enough to get to him (Diaz wasn't) let alone 140.
     
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  2. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    :( i already told you why! He knows pac's undergarments more than pac d best that is why!
    Anyways pbf chose not to run in shame of what he showed on his recent fights specifically the hoya fight. If he did, do you think he can catch up to pbf?
    And you also think that hatton can outmuscle pac! It's also not carved on stone so who gives the ****? And outmuscle pac? Pac is one of the best fitted diminutive pugilist in the sport! Don't let the size fool ya!!
    As for hatton's admittance that he can't outmuscle pbf is because of pbf's defense! Not of his natural strength! Pbf is never known to be that strong! He can ko boxers ecause of his accuracy and finnesse but he is not known to be a mutant-ly strong! Actually pbf chose to slug it out with ricky in the ropes!
    So this will be the first time you would see a real out boxing ring generalship by the best asian boxer in recent times!
     
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  3. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Hatton was able to have parity with Floyd, but that was never going to be enough. Also, Mayweather is excellent at covering up and preventing people getting off body shots from various ranges.

    Pac won't be as strong, and is much more hittable than Mayweather.

    Beating Diaz proves nothing - he is just a plodder ala Carlos Baldomir. He and Hatton are not similar at all.

    If Pac carries his power and speed up, I see him having a chance - without that it will be KO by broken ribcage, with Pac looking like a ragdoll.
     
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  4. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Pac can eat a meal at training day at 135 which he can't do at 130..
    Pac doe'snt have to hustle just to catch his weight at 135. which he is having a hard time at 130.
    Pac said he feels he is much stronger at 135: bad news to the 135 pugs.That power can be carried more at 140. Speed is no problem. At fight night in 145 pounds where they planned to exactly weigh at 145 pnds.. he still has freakish speed: witness what he did to david 10 hit combo at one point in the 8th round i think?
    Roach said 135 is pac's natural weight. If 135 is so easy for pac: what more in 140 where he does'nt have to cut weight so much, or dehydrate so much?
    Have you seen the champs at 140? Paulie, holt, hatton? Pretty slow are'nt they? :lol:
    Those are the indicators that pac can easily crown himself king of the 140 pnds.
    As for 135, nate would be easy, jmm would be ko'ed next time( jmm-pac 2 : pac weighed at 148 in fightnight! That;s why he's pretty sluggish! And he still kd jmm!), as for feather fisted guz: i don't know. That's why there is still tough competition here at 135, but at 140: i don't know..
    GO PAC GO!!!!:happy :happy :happy
     
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  5. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    regarding stamina, malignaggi and a lot of others as well. Holt, witter, bradley(perhaps), forbes, i don't know of others yet but i'm pretty sure most of the guys there can fight full 12 rounds. Hand speed on the other hand, pac has not fought at 140, at 140 pac will have a different handspeed and perhaps slower because of the weight increase.

    Perhaps a better question would be if it is 135, after seeing his last fight i'm pretty sure he's one of the top there when it comes to stamina and handspeed
     
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  6. UKFightFan

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    This thread seems a little pointless to me whatever anyone says you simply bumlike Pac in response and disagree with their comments. You're merely looking for people to agree with you.

    You pathetic comment above can be countered:

    If Billy Graham thinks that Hatton can win, who can argue with Graham?

    A trainer only really knows their own fighter and he is bound to think his fighter can beat anyone because they are loyal to their fighters and think that their training methods are the best.
     
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  7. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    I believe in roach more than i do graham's! :DBec. roach is a better trainer imo!
    Besides i am not only relying at roach's comments alone! Im relying at pac's speed and foot work! Anyways why are ya'll seem stuck at only hatton?! Is hatton the only one who can match pac's speed? If that is so and if pac defeats hatton then he can lord over the 140 division. Speed kills in boxing and so is lateral movement, power, heart, pac's granite chin, pac's adamantium abs, etc..imo pac is faster than hatton dontcha think?!:yep
     
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  8. psychopath

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    Ricardo Torres :yep
     
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  9. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Ricardo will look like being drugged when he faces pac: all dazed and confused with pac's speed! Next thing you know he will be sleeping like he digested 3 pills of ecstacy plus a bag of weed and put some crack in it.:lol:
     
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  10. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Nah nah nah bud . . . that's HYPE. Torres can bang for 12 rounds and has a decent speed to match Pac. We haven't seen Pac at 140 yet . . . isn't that right? How can you be so sure that the Pac that you saw fight Diaz is the same fight that's gonna show up at 140? :D
     
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  11. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    hatton
     
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  12. Zaryu

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    The problem is that no one has to match his speed nor his stamina. Not that it will be easy (far from it) but what they need to do is time him well and have the condition to pull off their game plan.
     
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  13. REatb6869

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    The Malignaggi fight will tell a lot. If Hatton is past his prime then Manny should take Ricky, who ate lots of punches against Lazcano.

    If Hatton can regain the form he had against Tszyu and Castillo, then Pac could get KO'd by a stronger man.
     
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  14. pelican

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    too early to say that with certainty
     
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  15. ApatheticLeader

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    5 whole pounds over the 140lb limit? Woooow!
     
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