Tell me something about Gerald McClellan

The mattress as you call it is made from Peto. This was only brought in in 1930, prior to that more horses were killed than bulls, thus rendering the picadors useless. The picadors stab behind the morillo ( the lump of muscle on the bulls neck ) then when they have finished the banderilleros move in to plant 2 banderilleras into the bulls shoulders, and yes whilst it does give the matador clues as to which side the bull favours it also considerably weakens the bull even more with the loss of even more blood.

As you say it isn't a sport, and no amount of debate will ever convince me that not one matador would go into a ring totally alone with a fully able bodied bull, that hasn't been weakened and fight it to the death.

As for them being gored, good. Hopefully many of them well be in future, and also with any luck, killed.

 

What part of the Japanese have shown no contrition or remorse for their actions in WW2 are you too stupid to understand?

 

Some simple reading for your simple southern brain...
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1989-09-21/news/8901140836_1_japan-didn-t-late-emperor-foreign-ministry

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/16/world/japanese-apology-for-war-is-welcomed-and-criticized.html

 

Most of which you have written just confirms my earlier post so I don't know why you mentioned it.

Prior to 1930 all the bulls were still killed and the horses were replaced when damaged ,so I don't know where you're going with that:huh

The point of the lance/pic is to weaken the bull enough for it to expose the spot in which the sword is placed without this the bull would be unkillable which I 've already mentioned.
No Matador would attempt to kill a bull that had not previously been worked with the pic sufficiently enough for it to lower its head for its vital spot to be exposed to the sword , it would be suicide. There have certainly been abuses by Picadors being over zealous with pic bearing down on it as the bull insist on its charge , but the Picadors often did this under the express instructions of the Matador. Other dodges were shaved horns , undersized bulls, bulls being deprived of water prior to the fight.Bull fighting has had its share of scandals over the previous century and a half but, whatever anyone 's opinion it has also had a great many very brave men participating in it and quite a few being killed or maimed doing so.
Joselito,Manolete, are two of the more celebrated ones to be killed .but 533 Matadors,Banderillos,and Picadors have died, so it isn't entirely one way traffic.

 

All bulls should be between 4 and 6 years old and weigh no less than 460 kg's.

You are saying this is / was often not the case.

To keep things simple.

Each matador has six assistants—two picadores ("lancers on horseback") mounted on horseback, three banderilleros – who along with the matadors are collectively known as toreros ("bullfighters") – and a mozo de espadas ("sword page"). Collectively they comprise a cuadrilla ("entourage"). In Spanish the more general torero is used for the lead fighter, and only when needed to distinguish a man is the full title matador de toros used; in English, "matador" is generally used for the bullfighter.

Yet you seem to celebrate the fact that unlimited horse were used before 1930 to replace the ones killed by the bull, so that the picadors could just remount and keep on lancing the creature.

Brave?

You have a very weird sense of the meaning of the word brave, if you believe ritual slaughter constitutes bravery.

 

Your first article shows only that Tojo was executed as a war criminal. Now research how many Nazi's were traced and executed.

A word of advice regarding your second article.

Never post a link that makes you look a bigger idiot than you already are. It not only shows that many Japanese ( even in political circles ) disagreed with the so called apology. It was addressed to the Asian countries that were INVADED by Japan. It mentioned nothing about the treatment of allied troops.:roll::roll:

 

Yeah plenty of Nazis were executed and plenty weren't, especially those that were a benefit to the Allies, I wonder why....

Yeah and I'm sure each and every German that apologised meant it from the bottom of their heart you moron. According to you japan isn't a civilised country, that makes you a ten on the re**** scale...

 

Again you are just repeating either what I've already stated or /and what I already know.
As to the size of the Bulls ,when the Miura bulls with their height and wide horns became the premier animal for the Corrida, bull fighters agents sometimes conspired to use younger immature animals to reduce the danger to their employers.


I don't celebrate the death of those horses, I just stated a fact ,a fact that directly contradicts what you stated ,ie that the death of a horse rendered the Picador useless , because it didn't, he just remounted on a replacement horse. Thanks for the condescending and unsolicited Spanish lesson but I already know all you said . I read Death in The Afternoon at college 50 years ago
ps Matador comes from the word matar- to kill and Matador literally means killer, its pretty much fallen out of usage now. The courage/ bravery I referred to is that exhibited by the man facing and killing the bull with nothing but a piece of red serge cloth and a sword and of course the courage of the bull itself. Not the end result, which is naturally the death of the bull.
Now I think this has gone just about as far as it can don't you? You've shown unusual restraint,[ for you,] in not treating me to a catalogue of obscenities and insults but I sense they are looming near the surface and on the point of erupting so let's leave it there.