Tell me Why Exactly PACQUIAO cannot Face MARTINEZ at 154?? What's the EXCUSE?

The point is that any real threat is dismissed for one reason or another (too big, too small, not established enough, money not right, etc) and we get spoon fed Tony, SSM, Clottey, etc. As opposed to fighting guys like Paul Williams, Martinez, Berto, JMM, Khan, Bradley etc. He's too "small" to fight Martinez, but he can't go down to meet the 140 guys, he won't fight Berto because he's not established enough, he acts as if Williams doesn't even exist as I've never heard him even mention his name, but steadily claims to want to fight the best, and that he's fighting for the fans, and all this bull****. At a minimum, at least PBF is honest...he fights for money. He isn't looked upon like some sort of Saint, he's viewed as what he is, and that's fine he should be. In a nutshell this issue stems from the fact he doesn't fight the best, he fights the easiest, yet some try to give him the credit that stems from fighting the best when many know this just isn't true. I would appreciate him/his fans/his team just calling it as it is, I'm fighting the easiest most profitable fights period. I can at least respect that, but save the I fight the best, I fight for the fans, bull****.

 

Hence paclowns like yourself making excuse after pathetic excuse clinging on his nutsacks on why its okay to fight washed up fighters like Margarito and Mosley, but not the real deal like Martinez. Are you really that ******ed? You would rather Pacman fight a Zbik at a catchweight just so he could be champ at 160 and then say he is the greatest of all time, wouldnt you? Stupid ******* I type what I want **** you.

 

Martinez makes the same claims about fighting the best. He also claims Pac fights no-hopers, and then calls out Pac's left overs.

 

Why pac cannot fight the KLIT's bro?

Why pac never fought black american fighter?

Why pac avoiding black slick fighter?

Why pac fighting his opponent in a catchweight bout?

Why pac fighting shot past prime fighter?

Why pac draining his opponents?

Why pac refused to take OSDT?

Why pac cannot fight martinez @160?

Why pac fighting mosley instead of berto?

Why pac cant fight marquez at @140?

Why pac fighter is the fighter of the decade? instead of Floyd. (floyd has 0 loses while pac has 3)

Why pac insist on cutoff date?

Why pac cherry picking his opponents?

Why pac always fighting opponent that suit his style?

Why pac always fight slow flat footed opponent?


why...why...why... ???

 

Are you one of those people who want Pacquiao to face JMM @ 140 (and back it up by saying Pac's optimal weight is 140) and at the same time want Pacquiao to face Martinez @ 154?

FFS! If you want to criticize Pac, at least be consistent and LOGICAL.

Thank you.

 

Not sure who this was addressed to, but would it not be fair to assume it's one or the other? Either he's at the MAX a 147 lber, to imply that if he's 147 maxed, it wouldn't be a stretch for him to make 140 OR 140 is too low and he's 147 minimum at which point it's not far fetched to think he could get to 154? I don't give a **** either way, the point is that it can't be both ways, it's one or the other.

 

I really don't think it's necessary for Pac to go up yet another weight class, and fight against a guy who fights comfortably at Middleweight. Not just anyone either... a guy who is AMAZING at middleweight. I would rather see him fight Berto, or go back down and fight Bradley.

 

Yup, that's the point I was trying to make. It CANT be both ways. You can't ask Pac to go down 140 and fight JMM and go to other thread saying you want Pac vs Martinez @ 154. Just choose ONE!

 

Pac weighed 148 in his last fight. Martinez weighed 170. JMM weighed I believed 146, or was that for the Mayweather fight? Close to that anyway. They are alot closer to size than Pac and Martinez. Pac relinquished his title anyway, as Whitaker did when he won his 154 belt. No expected him to fight Terry Norris.

 

Pac stays where he is, 144 for his fights. He looks phenomenal there. Mosley, Berto, Mayweather, retirement. And no one can say ****

 

Martinez weighted 170 on fight night for his last fight.

Pac weighted about 148 on fight night for Margarito.

Do the math. There was a 22 lb difference. Even if Martinez comes down to 154, he'll still weight like 165+ on fight night. The difference is just too big.

 

In fairness should "I" (figuratively speaking) choose or should he and his camp choose? They have supplied the fans with the justification that Manny has to starve himself to make 140 and wouldn't consider fighting any of the 140 guys at 140, yet they say he struggles to make the limits at WW or JMW...I mean they should tell me, which is it?

 

Oh so now its washed up fighters atsch

If you think marg is washed up then you really dont have an eye for boxing. Mosely although not in his prime is still a top welterweight :hi:

Which ******* said that the 150belt was legit? Name em and shame em here :deal

Martinez is about limit, nothing else fool. If all weights where equal, Pac would take martinez no problem :deal

So since you like talking about pac alot , I would like to know who your other fav boxers are ?

 

:dealThis right here. If he can't make over 147, WTF is he doing fighting for a 154lb title? That's as legit as mother****ing bigfoot.

 

If you think a 148-pound fighter needs an excuse not to face a 173-pound fighter, I don't know what to tell you that you could actually understand.