Tell us a novel thought about boxing history that we haven't heard before

Buster’s Brigadoon. Both Tokyo and the fit focused version of Douglas vanished completely thereafter.

 

Alas, in his hasty bid to be home before midnight, poor Buster left behind his glass boxing boot in the mythical city of Tokyo - armed with said boot, Prince Mike searched the land far and wide to find his Cinderfella - but the boot fit no one, not even Buster, who had since developed some serious and not so charming cankles.

 

Conversely, if you created enough Brian London’s, one of them would be the GOAT.

 

Interesting point and I interpret you’re talking the butterfly effect from the ground up - not just variances in what they might experience in boxing but in life in general - including what type of character they might develop in general.

Just looking at the boxing strand of influence - would it be fair to say also that the contemporary competition provides as the fertile (or not so fertile) ground from which Great Champions might or might not arise?

Say, if a Great fighter (historically established) was in born into another era of lesser surrounding quality in general - would that limit his own potential for learning and also the degree to which he might view as necessary to rise above the pack?

Like how great can a fighter be truly in his own right when removing all other influences - at least those gained in the sport of boxing let alone all else?

 

I dunno. Maybe it would just amount to a lot more Brian Londons.

 

Or maybe some Ingo Bingo's while Ingo plays the bongos. Now that is a tongue twister. Ha Ha.

 

Ali in any era would have the Float Like a Butterfly Sting Like a Bee effect.

 

Lol. The plot, script, themes and effects in the movie BF Effect were so good that they even made Ashton Kutcher seem like a halfway decent actor - no mean feat.

Funny - "The "Back In My Day" thread reminded me how Ali really didn't use his contemporaries so much, if at all, to elevate himself.

Like a Jeffries might say either Sharkey or Fitz would wallop the likes of relative newbies: Dempsey and Tunney. Of course, Jeffries beat Sharkey and Fitz so he instantly elevated himself with those sentiments. There are plenty of other examples of those type of "complimentary" sentiments that are primarily intended for self-promotion.

But Ali, unless I've missed quotes otherwise, was such a stand-alone egocentric individual, it seems he never used his contemporaries to indirectly bolster himself. If questioned on the subject, he simply and directly upheld himself as the greater fighter. When asked about how he would fare against Tyson during Mike's title reign, Ali replied to the effect of "Kong's good but he's NO Muhammad Ali" The man was irrepressible.

 

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There's a film in that Pugs... "Being Brian London", a puppeteer who finds a portal that leads into London's mind, there's he's able to have full control over Brian, using his puppeteering skills to try and hit Ali back. Although he falls short of doing anything about the beating administered by Jack Bodell. At the end Brian himself becomes a master puppeteer...and then enters a portal that leads in the mind of.... Danny McAlinden. There he finally gets his revenge on Jack for that beating (although he hadn't quite mastered those puppet skills judging by how messy that fight was).

 

I love it when they put science to music. It removes some of the nerd stigma and then even the “cool” kids can learn a bit of something. Great song, btw.